KO OOB Play (LSU-FL) Video

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by bisonlj

It was so close that ruling he had possession with one foot down and then put the other foot down was being too technical.

That doesn't make sense to me. With the amount of detail insant replay examines, it would seem that the the technical details in situations such as this matter now more than ever.

[DadofTwins]

This play was similar to one of my favorite "IBM Presents: You Make the Call" segments. They showed a kick returner catching a kickoff while straddling the sideline, then taking off up field. As my dad and I discussed whether the ball should be placed at the 1 (where he caught it) or where he was tackled, the announcer came back from commercial to say it was a kick-off out of bounds and the kicking team re-kicked.

I don't remember whether they specified NFL or NCAA rules, and as a soccer guy I don't know enough of the football rule book to know if it makes a difference.

Does anybody else remember these commercials?

Just me, then?

OK.

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by DadofTwins

This play was similar to one of my favorite "IBM Presents: You Make the Call" segments. They showed a kick returner catching a kickoff while straddling the sideline, then taking off up field. As my dad and I discussed whether the ball should be placed at the 1 (where he caught it) or where he was tackled, the announcer came back from commercial to say it was a kick-off out of bounds and the kicking team re-kicked.

I don't remember whether they specified NFL or NCAA rules, and as a soccer guy I don't know enough of the football rule book to know if it makes a difference.

Does anybody else remember these commercials?

Just me, then?

OK.

I remember those commericals. ALCOA was the sponsor and they were in NFL games.

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by TXMike

The thing that I really do not understand on this specific play is the L, who has absolutely NO view of the ball, making the call over the F who had feet and ball.

Originally Posted by jimpiano

It wasn't a pass, it was a free kick. And the position of the ball is irrelevant because the player was ruled out of bounds when he caught the ball.

I think Mike's point is - how can an official who can not see the ball rule on whether the ball was possessed before the player touched out of bounds?

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by waltjp

I think Mike's point is - how can an official who can not see the ball rule on whether the ball was possessed before the player touched out of bounds?

Because catching the ball was irrelevant.
The question was was the ball out of bounds? The official only needed to see the receiving team touch the ball and judge if he was in bounds or out of bounds. His ruling was out of bounds and it was confirmed by replay.

[TXMike]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

Because catching the ball was irrelevant.
The question was was the ball out of bounds? The official only needed to see the receiving team touch the ball and judge if he was in bounds or out of bounds. His ruling was out of bounds and it was confirmed by replay.

And so that official has x-ray vision which allowed him to see through the returner's back to see when he touched the ball?

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by TXMike

And so that official has x-ray vision which allowed him to see through the returner's back to see when he touched the ball?

There does not seem to be much left to debate.
You simply do not acknowledge what the officials on the field ruled nor accept that the replay official agreed with their ruling.