MNF Minn @ GB Over Officiated?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Mregor

I watched enough to know that their assisting the teammate jumper call is not a PF as they called it. I saw an illegal downfield call where the DE stunted and the tackle missed his block and the tackle was not much more than a step accross the LOS and did not continue and they called it ineligible down field (and it was a deep pass and not a screen). I saw at least one DPI that just wasn't there IMO. Have no idea who the crew was as I don't pay that much attention to the numerous officials, and from what I saw, I felt it was over officiated. Totally took away from the game. Or I was drunk, one of the two.

You must have been drunk, from Wisconsin or both!

They showed the replay twice on the TD pass to Donald Driver. Two linemen were a step across the LOS but a second linemen was FIVE yards across the LOS. Sorry but that's ineligible downfield.

There was an ineligible downfield on a WR screen pass that I didn't understand as the ball didn't cross the NZ. And there was a DPI call on Green Bay when WR Wade was pulled down by his left arm while running a cross that was NOT called. I thought to myself, "Somebody will get gig for that one."

But over officiated? No. These guys are scrutinized on every play. If you see a foul, you'd better call it. As MJT said, sloppy play.

[grantsrc]

And the assisting the jumper, or leverage as it was announced, is a PF in NFL. Might want to get your rules straight.

[mikesears]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

There was an ineligible downfield on a WR screen pass that I didn't understand as the ball didn't cross the NZ.

Under NFL rules, the pass does not need to cross the line of scrimmage in order to have IDF.

[OverAndBack]

FYI, most penalties, both teams in an NFL game:

37 Cleveland (21) vs. Chi. Bears (16), Nov. 25, 1951
35 Tampa Bay (20) vs. Seattle (15), Oct. 17, 1976*
34 San Francisco (22) vs. Buffalo (12), Oct. 4, 1998

*EDIT: The official play-by-play of this one is a bit confusing but doesn't list 20 penalties for Tampa Bay (it does list 15 for Seattle).

TB was hit for:

8 offensive holding calls
3 offsides/encroachments
2 personal fouls
1 illegal motion
1 face mask
1 roughing the passer
1 illegal procedure
1 unsportsmanlike conduct

Seattle was hit for:
5 offensive holdings
2 defensive holdings
2 personal fouls
2 delay of game
1 offside
1 false start
1 illegal use of hands

There was also offsetting holding calls on one play, and a notation that an ineligible receiver downfield call on Tampa Bay was "over-ruled by" a clipping foul on Seattle. Did they used to do it that way, where if one foul carried more yardage as a penalty, it would trump one on the other team? Strange.

That's sloppy, expansion-team football from 1976.

[Bob M.]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

...There was an ineligible downfield on a WR screen pass that I didn't understand as the ball didn't cross the NZ.

REPLY BBR...unless I'm mistaken, in NFL rules, linemen are restricted to their side of the neutral zone even on passes that don't cross the LOS.