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[Theisey]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

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My opinion- the Fed doesn't like it but hasn't had the time to study the rule change necessary so in order to prevent an explosion of this they've decided to rule it as unsportsmanlike until they can tweak the rule.

.. and we value your opinion as opinions of others when it comes to discussing items like this. Yes, you do have to follow what you state association say, right or wrong.

The NFHS has had plenty of time to discuss and make a formal rule book ruling. If any one was following Coach Bryons postings in a very lengthy forum in the NFHS FB board, Coach B. took his teams novel formation to their highest levels in the CA high school sports administration and to the NF prior to using this formation last season.
In all responses, the play was declared legal because of the definitions already in the book.

They (the NF) should have done something about this formation in February or whenever they meet. Now is not the time to have a change of heart on something that doesn't involve player safety.

I for one, do happen to agree it should not be permitted unless it is an obvious kicking situation, but then it's only an opinion, but not really a strong feeling against the formation.

I've been told that our state interpretor as said it was OK, not sure why he had to get involved in the first place, but it probably was the result of a few teams (one in my area) that have expressed interest in using it. I sure hope it's not in one of my games, even though I do have that particular team on my schedule.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Theisey

.. and we value your opinion as opinions of others when it comes to discussing items like this. Yes, you do have to follow what you state association say, right or wrong.

The NFHS has had plenty of time to discuss and make a formal rule book ruling. If any one was following Coach Bryons postings in a very lengthy forum in the NFHS FB board, Coach B. took his teams novel formation to their highest levels in the CA high school sports administration and to the NF prior to using this formation last season.
In all responses, the play was declared legal because of the definitions already in the book.

They (the NF) should have done something about this formation in February or whenever they meet. Now is not the time to have a change of heart on something that doesn't involve player safety.

I for one, do happen to agree it should not be permitted unless it is an obvious kicking situation, but then it's only an opinion, but not really a strong feeling against the formation.

I've been told that our state interpretor as said it was OK, not sure why he had to get involved in the first place, but it probably was the result of a few teams (one in my area) that have expressed interest in using it. I sure hope it's not in one of my games, even though I do have that particular team on my schedule.

Exactly!

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I do have the 2005 NFHS books, and the 2008 books are on their way soon. I believe that a communication from the NFHS is required if something by definition is legal. A team surely can punt on any down other than 4th (can't they?), and teams are also permitted to change their minds based on broken down defenses.

They aren't changing their minds and they aren't kicking the ball. They've created an offense designed around an exception that was created for kicking the ball only. It's an EXCEPTION to the rules for a specific purpose.

Originally Posted by Theisey

If any one was following Coach Bryons postings in a very lengthy forum in the NFHS FB board, Coach B. took his teams novel formation to their highest levels in the CA high school sports administration and to the NF prior to using this formation last season.

Yes Tom, that's what HE said.

Isn't there anyone here from Pennsylvania who can contact Brad Cashman and get us some first hand information on the NFHS Rules Committee's thoughts?

Originally Posted by Sonofanump

All NFHS needs to do is add the NCAA language "obvious kicking" and it would be illegal.

Yes, we're all aware of that. But they haven't done it.

[Sonofanump]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

My opinion- the Fed doesn't like it but hasn't had the time to study the rule change necessary so in order to prevent an explosion of this they've decided to rule it as unsportsmanlike until they can tweak the rule.

All NFHS needs to do is add the NCAA language "obvious kicking" and it would be illegal.

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Yes, we're all aware of that. But they haven't done it.

I was just responding to this sentence. I should have quoted it the first time. Thanks.