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Old Sat Dec 22, 2007, 06:24pm
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7 - 4 doesn't equal exploitation

Dear Offiicials:

Piedmont's 7 - 4 record does not equate to unfair exploitation on any level, but it does equal a fun and successful season.

Also but to not belabor the point...the amount of direct, email and phone calls upbeat and overwhelmingly positive feedback we have received far outweighs the negative ones.

Mind you, I like Officials and what they stand for, always have, always will.

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Old Sat Dec 22, 2007, 06:36pm
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What is the process for getting rule changes in NFHS? Is there a rules committee? Who is on it?
Coaches, ADs, and others recommend changes to their state association representatives. The reps decide what they want to present to the committee. Questionaire surveys are sent out scross the country, asking for input concerning the proposals.

The committee is comprised of state association representatives. New members come on and old members rotate off each year. The rules committee presents their recommendations to the entire membsership, who then vote on those proposed changes each year.

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Also but to not belabor the point...the amount of direct, email and phone calls upbeat and overwhelmingly positive feedback we have received far outweighs the negative ones.
Coach, all that and 99 cents will get you a cup of coffee at McDonald's.

Right now, in the 48 NFHS football states, very few people know anything about your system. While you might think you've heard from a lot of people, there are hundreds and hundreds of varsity head coaches in every state. How many have you had communication with? Several hundred?
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Old Sat Dec 22, 2007, 06:41pm
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This thing will be a victim of its own success. If it does become successful on any kind of scale, it will be shut down, as it should be. Until then, it is a somewhat insignificant blip on the radar.
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Old Sat Dec 22, 2007, 07:01pm
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Dear Officials:

In keeping with the reminder that I was asked by several Officials via online chat or phone calls to post information and opinions on these types of excellent boards, here you go:

Over the past 4 months, we have heard from approximately 500 coaches and Officials combined, with another 500 via email too. Suprising, fun, nice, etc.

And here is from another post online forum, and sometimes it is better to use the words of others, not always but sometimes. This is a quote from a San Franciso bay area coach on another thread............................................ ......see below:


"Wow. Something amazing to consider. That the game of football can't handle innovation. That it would be best of football remained the same. Would everyone continue to watch football if every game looked like the Minnesota Vikings Chicago Bears Monday Night bore-a-thon. Can anyone differentiate the style of football played by all the NFL teams other than the Patriots & Colts? When the game quits evolving it will die.

Whether we like it or not, we are in an era of innovation in the game of football. Spread option, Florida offense, Texas Tech offense, Rutgers 2 pod spread punt, 49ers A-11 formation punt vs Carolina, De La Salle's 4-1-2 spread punt in the NCS Championship Game. . . .the list goes on.

This is what football needs to keep evolving as the greatest game. All the innovation should be embraced. The guys doing all this innovation have the balls to try it, in the face of "traditionalists" who want to limit change in the game."

coachfrisco

"Regarding my last post, I am a real fan of entertaining football. I saw Piedmont play and loved their A-11 offense. They are one small school trying something different, in one small area of the country and people who have never seen it are calling for it to be banned. . .that would be a shame.

I coach in the San Francisco Bay Area and first learned about this two quarterback A-11 offense from an article in a local newspaper at the beginning of the season. I was intrigued and followed it all year. They got beat the first two games, then won 7 in a row to make the play-offs. They got a ton of positive press and every Friday night I looked forward to seeing their highlights on our local High School Sports Focus program. One of my friends refereed one of their games and he told me how cool it was that Piedmont was trying something different and that it was one of his most enjoyable games to referee this season. I had an opportunity to see one of their home games later in the season and it looked confusing to me at first (the defense looked confused too). But as the game went along you could see how they were spreading the defense into 3 zones and shifting to create mismatches. One thing that impressed me seeing it in person, was how they used a deadly draw to limit the defensive pressure. Their QB was also able to sprint out much easier than I expected, and one of the covered receivers on the right side delivered a devastating crack back to a defender chasing him. It was great to see and I hope they do not ban it. Our staff is looking forward to learning more about how the A-11 works at the NorCal coaching clinic."

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Old Sat Dec 22, 2007, 07:18pm
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Over the past 4 months, we have heard from approximately 500 coaches and Officials combined, with another 500 via email too. Suprising, fun, nice, etc.
Oh, well, that changes everything doesn't it? 1,000 people, eh? Wow.

You just don't get it, do you? None of what you've written makes any difference. You're exploiting a rule that was written to create a balance in the game. If enough people don't like the system, it won't last.
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Old Sat Dec 22, 2007, 07:18pm
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Take it to the XFL or pee wee football. This type of "innovation" would be more than welcome there. This is NOT within the spirit of the true game of football. It is easy to be "innovative" when you do not have to worry about the rules. SOme coaches thought it was "innovative" to bring their offense to the sideline on 4th and short from the 50 and in and then rush 11 guys in quickly to the line of scrimmage hoping to catch the defense in the middle of subbing or with wrong personnel so the offense could "trick" them as to their intent. The rulemakers shut this down, rightfully so. The same will happen to the A11 although there is no danger of ever seeing it in college or the pros as the rules already prevent it.
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Old Sat Dec 22, 2007, 07:40pm
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reply and thank you

Dear BktballRef,

You simply asked me in your earlier post above how many people had contacted us about it?

Just being honest and thank you.

Kurt
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Old Sat Dec 22, 2007, 09:39pm
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Yes sir, and that's exactly my point.

We won't settle anything here. But good luck and Marry Christmas.
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Old Sat Dec 22, 2007, 11:38pm
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Dear BktballRef,

You simply asked me in your earlier post above how many people had contacted us about it?

Just being honest and thank you.

Kurt
That all sounds great and wonderful but now you have highlighting a flaw in the rules that are currently on the books. I would not be surprised if individuals take your claims and change the rule. You even posted this on the NF website to highlight the issue with the rule and how this offense is so great. And I do believe that people from the NF read some of these boards for rules situations so they can get an idea of what might be going on throughout the country and make recommendations based on possible rules issues.

Let me fill you in on another little secret, the issues of steroids are local issues and nothing the NF has jurisdiction over. My state has already taken some action as it relates to steroids and might institute some kind of testing.

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