Questioning Integrity of Officials & League

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by UES

I'm not sure I follow you on this.... Do you think he should have been ejected or was a 30 yard penalty acessed on the kick off punishment enough? If you want to see the video, I'm sure you can google it but I would hope that you realize that an ejection is the only way to go

I think the Ravens could have used those 30 yards considering that they lost the game by a couple of yards away from the EZ. You tell me if that hurt them enough?

Peace

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

I think the Ravens could have used those 30 yards considering that they lost the game by a couple of yards away from the EZ. You tell me if that hurt them enough?

Peace

I think you're missing the point Jeff. The Ref made a poor choice by not ejecting him from the game. Regardless if the penalty yards hurt the Ravens more or less, I feel, and I'm sure all of the other football officials on this site think the same way, that the ONLY option for an act of this nature is an ejection. You simply can not allow a player that does this to remain in the game. Why are you struggling with this? Isn't it obvious to you?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by UES

I think you're missing the point Jeff. The Ref made a poor choice by not ejecting him from the game. Regardless if the penalty yards hurt the Ravens more or less, I feel, and I'm sure all of the other football officials on this site think the same way, that the ONLY option for an act of this nature is an ejection. You simply can not allow a player that does this to remain in the game. Why are you struggling with this? Isn't it obvious to you?

I am not missing anything and I am not trying to make a point. I personally do not care if he was thrown out or not. That is based on the philosophies of the NFL and their officials. I do not make a habit of trying to second guess officials I see on TV when I did not hear what was said and the league is not paying me to work the game. And you cannot use standards of amateur sports and apply them to the pro game. You never can. This is why what you see MLB Umpires do would get you fired at other levels. I personally could give a damn. They lost the game and largely did so because their team imploded at the end. Why do you care why I do not care? And if you have not noticed, I am the only person really talking to you about this. That should tell you something about the outrage. If I was not bored I might not be talking to you either.

Peace

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am not missing anything and I am not trying to make a point. I personally do not care if he was thrown out or not. That is based on the philosophies of the NFL and their officials. I do not make a habit of trying to second guess officials I see on TV when I did not hear what was said and the league is not paying me to work the game. And you cannot use standards of amateur sports and apply them to the pro game. You never can. This is why what you see MLB Umpires do would get you fired at other levels. I personally could give a damn. They lost the game and largely did so because their team imploded at the end. Why do you care why I do not care? And if you have not noticed, I am the only person really talking to you about this. That should tell you something about the outrage. If I was not bored I might not be talking to you either.

Alright, Alright - I give up. I'm not trying to second guess NFL Officials either. Actually, just trying to get a better understanding for their thought process. As I said, I only work baseball (I have a hard enought time with balls/strikes & safes/outs - I can't imagine trying to call holding, illegal formation etc). However, I think we can all learn from each others' experiences and if I can pick something up from an official from a different sport and apply it to mine, then that's a good thing. Thanks for your thoughts

[HLin NC]

He was not ejected probably because under NFL rules it was not an ejectable offense. They let a lot of things go under the guise of "entertainment."

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Originally Posted by HLin NC

He was not ejected probably because under NFL rules it was not an ejectable offense. They let a lot of things go under the guise of "entertainment."

Really? Now that's interesting. I'm not sure I would classify Scott's act as entertainment, but if it's not an ejectable offense - then maybe the 30 yard penalty was the only other option. Thanks for your input

I know in college and NF ball, 2 unsportsmanlike conduct flags is an ejection. The NFL doesn't have that? Do they even have a limit? If not, then what the h*ll good is an unsportsmanlike conduct flag to start with?

If their limit was two, he would have been ejected. In football, an ejected player doesn't have to leave the confines of the field until an intermission or the end of the game. They're just not allowed back on the field. (Correct me if I'm wrong on that)