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Old Thu Oct 25, 2007, 10:44pm
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i'd really would have liked to be a fly on the wall in the replay booth. the replay clearly showed he didn't have possession until the foot was off the ground. inexplicable.
And how did the two officials on the field determine it was a touchdown?
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Old Fri Oct 26, 2007, 04:04am
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It seems like its been a struggling year for NCAA officiating, if only by the seemingly vastly increased media reports of games with bad rulings.
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Old Fri Oct 26, 2007, 05:54am
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And how did the two officials on the field determine it was a touchdown?
I don't see 2 guys on the play. The call is all by the F.
Very tough play. The F gets driven back off the pylon but then has to make the call on the sideline with no help.

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It seems like its been a struggling year for NCAA officiating, if only by the seemingly vastly increased media reports of games with bad rulings.
Now that sounds like an ignorant fan talking, not a ref. Just because you hear more about something from the media does not mean there is actually more of something. Often times it just means there is more coverage.
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Old Fri Oct 26, 2007, 07:10am
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I don't see 2 guys on the play. The call is all by the F.
Very tough play. The F gets driven back off the pylon but then has to make the call on the sideline with no help.

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You apparently did not see the actual game.
The field judge never made any call until the Back Judge came over and gave his opinion. Then the touchdown signal was given. As you can see in the replay angles, the Back Judge is nowhere to be seen. The only official who had a decent look at the play was the replay guy. And it is tough to support his call.
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Old Fri Oct 26, 2007, 08:00am
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I don't see the F looking towards where B would be plus I don't know what a B could offer on this anyway. The F had a good look at ball and hands. Only thing he would have trouble with is feet and sideline and nobody can help him as the L is dealing with crap on the QB and is too far away anyway.
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Old Fri Oct 26, 2007, 08:41am
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I don't see the F looking towards where B would be plus I don't know what a B could offer on this anyway. The F had a good look at ball and hands. Only thing he would have trouble with is feet and sideline and nobody can help him as the L is dealing with crap on the QB and is too far away anyway.
Well, the Back Judge came over because the Field Judge was obviously looking for help. Try to get a replay of the entire sequence.
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Old Fri Oct 26, 2007, 02:26pm
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Well, the Back Judge came over because the Field Judge was obviously looking for help. Try to get a replay of the entire sequence.
Watching the replay of teh game right now. I see what you mean. I would sure like to know what the heck they were talking about. I assume it was just the BJ confirming that the receiver had possession of the ball. BUt the F should have been able to see that with no help. Maybe it was the BJ asking the F to tell him what he had so he could help the F make the decision as to the final result?
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Old Fri Oct 26, 2007, 09:47am
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Now that sounds like an ignorant fan talking, not a ref. Just because you hear more about something from the media does not mean there is actually more of something. Often times it just means there is more coverage.
It only sounds like an ignorant fan.

Besides, clearly the NCAA feels that the officiating needs to head in a different direction (not a vastly different direction, just some fine tuning perhaps), otherwise why would there be a need to look for a National Coordinator of College Football Officiating?

His/Her duties will include "...act in the best interest of college football and to further standardize and enhance the quality of college football officiating."

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Old Fri Oct 26, 2007, 10:01am
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There is already a National Coordinator (Dave Parry). He is just retiring.

I don't see anything in the statement from the job announcement you quoted that admits NCAA officiating is "struggling"
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Old Fri Oct 26, 2007, 10:18am
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There is already a National Coordinator (Dave Parry). He is just retiring.

I don't see anything in the statement from the job announcement you quoted that admits NCAA officiating is "struggling"
No kidding. Good to know!

The article wasn't quoted to show the officaiting is struggling. It was quoted thinking that a different direction is needed.
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Old Fri Oct 26, 2007, 10:23am
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You are reading way too much into that job announcement.
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Old Fri Oct 26, 2007, 10:39am
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Where is the line judge?
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Old Fri Oct 26, 2007, 10:39am
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You are reading way too much into that job announcement.
I don't feel that way at all.

When I learned about the post, I did not know that Parry was retiring and that the post was to fill his position. (If I am wrong to assume that when someone leaves a job, management often replaces that person with another person, please let me know.) Therefore, I thought the post was to fill the need for work desired to be done outside of Parry's mandate and time restraints.

Now that I know Parry is retiring, then the post makes sense, and that the post is to replace a current employee. If it's an apology you need for my misuderstanding, then I offer it.
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