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jimpiano Thu Oct 25, 2007 07:42pm

BC vs VaTech
 
Who is reviewing the plays in the instant replay booth in this game, the Hokie Alumi Club?

jimpiano Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:15pm

Nice to see good teams play over bad calls

bobbybanaduck Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:18pm

i'd really would have liked to be a fly on the wall in the replay booth. the replay clearly showed he didn't have possession until the foot was off the ground. inexplicable.

jimpiano Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:44pm

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Originally Posted by bobbybanaduck
i'd really would have liked to be a fly on the wall in the replay booth. the replay clearly showed he didn't have possession until the foot was off the ground. inexplicable.

And how did the two officials on the field determine it was a touchdown?

JugglingReferee Fri Oct 26, 2007 04:04am

It seems like its been a struggling year for NCAA officiating, if only by the seemingly vastly increased media reports of games with bad rulings.

TXMike Fri Oct 26, 2007 05:54am

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Originally Posted by jimpiano
And how did the two officials on the field determine it was a touchdown?

I don't see 2 guys on the play. The call is all by the F.
Very tough play. The F gets driven back off the pylon but then has to make the call on the sideline with no help.

http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1267571292

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee
It seems like its been a struggling year for NCAA officiating, if only by the seemingly vastly increased media reports of games with bad rulings.

Now that sounds like an ignorant fan talking, not a ref. Just because you hear more about something from the media does not mean there is actually more of something. Often times it just means there is more coverage.

jimy2shooz Fri Oct 26, 2007 06:56am

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Originally Posted by jimpiano
Nice to see good teams play over bad calls

Take a closer look at BC's first TD. Was that receiver's toe not touching that line??? Sure would have liked to been in the replay booth on that call too! Sure looked like a makeup call

jimpiano Fri Oct 26, 2007 07:10am

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Originally Posted by TXMike
I don't see 2 guys on the play. The call is all by the F.
Very tough play. The F gets driven back off the pylon but then has to make the call on the sideline with no help.

http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1267571292




You apparently did not see the actual game.
The field judge never made any call until the Back Judge came over and gave his opinion. Then the touchdown signal was given. As you can see in the replay angles, the Back Judge is nowhere to be seen. The only official who had a decent look at the play was the replay guy. And it is tough to support his call.

TXMike Fri Oct 26, 2007 08:00am

I don't see the F looking towards where B would be plus I don't know what a B could offer on this anyway. The F had a good look at ball and hands. Only thing he would have trouble with is feet and sideline and nobody can help him as the L is dealing with crap on the QB and is too far away anyway.

jimpiano Fri Oct 26, 2007 08:41am

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Originally Posted by TXMike
I don't see the F looking towards where B would be plus I don't know what a B could offer on this anyway. The F had a good look at ball and hands. Only thing he would have trouble with is feet and sideline and nobody can help him as the L is dealing with crap on the QB and is too far away anyway.

Well, the Back Judge came over because the Field Judge was obviously looking for help. Try to get a replay of the entire sequence.

JugglingReferee Fri Oct 26, 2007 09:47am

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Originally Posted by TXMike
Now that sounds like an ignorant fan talking, not a ref. Just because you hear more about something from the media does not mean there is actually more of something. Often times it just means there is more coverage.

It only sounds like an ignorant fan. ;)

Besides, clearly the NCAA feels that the officiating needs to head in a different direction (not a vastly different direction, just some fine tuning perhaps), otherwise why would there be a need to look for a National Coordinator of College Football Officiating?

His/Her duties will include "...act in the best interest of college football and to further standardize and enhance the quality of college football officiating."

http://www.refstripes.com/forum/index.php?topic=2949.0

TXMike Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:01am

There is already a National Coordinator (Dave Parry). He is just retiring.

I don't see anything in the statement from the job announcement you quoted that admits NCAA officiating is "struggling"

JugglingReferee Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:18am

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXMike
There is already a National Coordinator (Dave Parry). He is just retiring.

I don't see anything in the statement from the job announcement you quoted that admits NCAA officiating is "struggling"

No kidding. Good to know!

The article wasn't quoted to show the officaiting is struggling. It was quoted thinking that a different direction is needed.

TXMike Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:23am

You are reading way too much into that job announcement.

Texas Aggie Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:39am

Where is the line judge?


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