Was this the correct administration?

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by NewGaRef

Had this situation Saturday at an 8th grade game. 1st and 10 on A's 35. A has two men in motion at the snap. A20 is tackled 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage. WH indicates that since the foul occurred at the snap, the penalty would be five yards from the previous spot. I asked him does this fit into the All-but-one category, he indicated no. What's the correct administration of this penalty? Thanks.

Think about this one: if illegal motion were administered as 3-and-1 (all but one) rather than as a foul occurring with the snap, where would you say the foul occurred?? This is why all the fouls relating to requirements to put the ball in play have to relate to the spot from which the ball was (to be) put in play.

BTW, it's different in Rugby Union. If the ball comes out of a scrum here, and a player had gone offside way over yonder, it's where the player broke the offside line that the penalty is from, which can result in the spot's moving laterally a long way.

Robert

[MJT]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Think about this one: if illegal motion were administered as 3-and-1 (all but one) rather than as a foul occurring with the snap, where would you say the foul occurred?? This is why all the fouls relating to requirements to put the ball in play have to relate to the spot from which the ball was (to be) put in play.

BTW, it's different in Rugby Union. If the ball comes out of a scrum here, and a player had gone offside way over yonder, it's where the player broke the offside line that the penalty is from, which can result in the spot's moving laterally a long way.

Robert

Not all fouls simultaneous with the snap occur at the LOS. An illegal motion foul could easy occur several yards behind the LOS. Same for an illegal shift, if it were backs, or an illegal substitution where the player didn't get off the field and was behind his teams LOS. I get your point though.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by MJT

Not all fouls simultaneous with the snap occur at the LOS. An illegal motion foul could easy occur several yards behind the LOS. Same for an illegal shift, if it were backs, or an illegal substitution where the player didn't get off the field and was behind his teams LOS. I get your point though.

Get it? You just stated it!