Foul on player who is OB

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Your response may be clear ... but it's still wrong. It's not illegal for B to leave the field and return during a play.

Actually it would be illegal if B intentionally left and returned. No player can do that. The problem is that B did not come back into play.

NF Rule 9-6-1 (I am not sure about the NCAA Rule, you are from Texas. )

Peace

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Actually it would be illegal if B intentionally left and returned. No player can do that. The problem is that B did not come back into play.

NF Rule 9-6-1 (I am not sure about the NCAA Rule, you are from Texas. )

Peace

This may be a matter of interpretation ... but a defensive player who has unintentionally contacted the sideline, or was forced slightly wide should be significantly different than a player who actually leaves the field (as in CanadaRef's scenario).

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

This may be a matter of interpretation ... but a defensive player who has unintentionally contacted the sideline, or was forced slightly wide should be significantly different than a player who actually leaves the field (as in CanadaRef's scenario).

It is not a matter of interpretation, I am telling you what the rule says. And it is never illegal to just run out of bounds. You do not throw the flag until they come back in after you have determined they went out of bounds intentionally.

So if a player runs out of bounds, I do not see any rule that allows them to be cheap shot because they might potentially foul. B has not done anything in this scenario that would be IP yet. Now if they come back in that is another story all together.

Peace

[MD Longhorn]

Whether you or I are right about the ability for B to return in a situation as described in the OP, both of us agree that B's existence out of bounds doesn't give A the right to BIB or PF him, and that you definitely have a foul on A on this play.

Note - I've reread the relevant sections of the NCAA book, and can find no reference at all to B or R players who have left the field, other than those who have been replaced or left the field before the play starts.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Whether you or I are right about the ability for B to return in a situation as described in the OP, both of us agree that B's existence out of bounds doesn't give A the right to BIB or PF him, and that you definitely have a foul on A on this play.

I was not debating the right of B to come back into the game. That would be based on if the covering official thinks. I am just saying B has not fouled yet by rule.

I do agree with the rest of what you are saying.

Peace

[rdfox]

You are still missing the point. B can go out of bounds and return legally anytime before a change of team possession. Rule 9-6-1 specifically refers to A & K.

The penalty for IP would be against A if he steps on the sidelines while making the illegal block and then his next step is in-bounds. This would be a multiple foul against A and I'm sure B would take the 15-yard IP rather than the 10-yard BIB.

[FeetBallRef]

NFHS Rule 9 Sec. 6 Art. 1... Prior to a change of possession, or when there is no change of possession, no player of A or K shall go out of bounds and return during the down unless blocked out of bounds by an opponent. If a player is blocked out of bounds by an opponent and returns inbounds during the down, he shall return at the first opportunity.

NFHS Rule 9 Sec. 6 Art. 2... During the down, no player shall intentionally go out of bounds and return.

[rdfox]

I humbly stand corrected on the issue of B intentionally go OB and coming back in. Thank you.