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Old Fri Jul 22, 2005, 07:37am
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This is a question from a new official. If I'm interpreting this correctly, I see that by a new rule there are no cases where team-control fouls result in a free throw. How about player-control fouls? Do they result in free throws in certain cases?

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Old Fri Jul 22, 2005, 07:49am
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No. The player control foul remains exactly as it has always been. The new team control foul simply makes the penalty for a foul by any member of the offensive team the same as the penalty for a foul by the ballhandler.
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Old Fri Jul 22, 2005, 10:17am
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Is there going to be a signal for a team-control foul? Or will it just be the signal for the foul that was called? (Push, block, etc?)
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Old Fri Jul 22, 2005, 10:20am
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I honestly don't know, Frank. Somebody asked this when the rule change was first announced and nobody seemed to know. My guess is that the team control signal will be the same as the player control signal. This is the case in NCAA men's mechanics, and I think it's pretty likely that the FED will follow their lead.
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I honestly don't know, Frank. Somebody asked this when the rule change was first announced and nobody seemed to know. My guess is that the team control signal will be the same as the player control signal. This is the case in NCAA men's mechanics, and I think it's pretty likely that the FED will follow their lead.
I just placed an order for the new rules book today (yeah, I'm a bit of an eager beaver). When it arrives, I'll post whatever I can find about what signal to use for this.
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Old Fri Jul 22, 2005, 04:07pm
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page 70 of the august referee magazine...

one-hand fist to indicate foul
preliminary signal to indicate nature of foul
point to opposite end of the floor
indicate spot for designated spot throw-in...

no new signal for the new fed team-control foul...
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Old Fri Jul 22, 2005, 04:17pm
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page 70 of the august referee magazine...

one-hand fist to indicate foul
preliminary signal to indicate nature of foul
point to opposite end of the floor
indicate spot for designated spot throw-in...

no new signal for the new fed team-control foul...
That sounds about like what I expected.
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Old Fri Jul 22, 2005, 04:17pm
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page 70 of the august referee magazine...

one-hand fist to indicate foul
preliminary signal to indicate nature of foul
point to opposite end of the floor
indicate spot for designated spot throw-in...

no new signal for the new fed team-control foul...
If that's the case, it's a mistake.

The coaches already know the PC signal and most know it means no free throws.

Player control and team control should have the same signal, IMO.
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Old Tue Jul 26, 2005, 12:29am
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Just a reminder that Referee Magazine has no authority to set mechanics or make rule interpretations for the NFHS. We don't even pay attention to what they write out here. Although they like to pass themselves off as an authoritative source of sports rules information. I guess it helps sell subscriptions.

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No one said that Referee Magazine was the authority. But if the NF did not add a new signal, then they did not add a new signal. They just report the information that is given to them. That is the case with most media outlets.

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