Part I Test

[MNBlue]

Originally Posted by OverAndBack

#61: "If end A1 accidentally goes out of bounds and returns during the down, he becomes an ineligible pass receiver."

My research showed that 7-5-6-d states, "A player who is eligible at the start of the down remains eligible throughout the down." That is why I answered True. 9-6-1 says "... no player of A or K shall go out of bounds and return during the down unless blocked out of bounds by an opponent. ..."
So, although the player who accidentally goes out of bounds remains eligible, he can be flagged for IP.

Originally Posted by OverAndBack

#85:"R may recover any scrimmage kick anywhere between the goal lines and advance the ball."

I think you overthought it, as you discovered, R cannot advance a try that is not good and they can't advance a scrimmage kick when a teammate signals a fair catch.

Originally Posted by OverAndBack

I also had a problem with the question (forget which one it was) about a substitute coming in who has the same number as a player going out. In my mind, that's anal (the fact that it's "true" to them). One #10 goes out, one comes in, that's fine. They can't both participate in the play. But, in my mind (and maybe yours), one subbing for the other seems fine to me. Your thoughts?

I agree with you on this one. 7-2-5-c states "Players of the same team shall not participate during the same down while wearing identical numbers." Preventative officiating would lead me to think that I would try to stop this penalty from occuring, but since the rulebook provides for a penalty if this happens (illegal numbering), I would also think that, technically, we shouldn't prevent two players from participating with identical numbers if that is what the coach wants to do.

[OverAndBack]

Originally Posted by MNBlue

My research showed that 7-5-6-d states, "A player who is eligible at the start of the down remains eligible throughout the down." That is why I answered True. 9-6-1 says "... no player of A or K shall go out of bounds and return during the down unless blocked out of bounds by an opponent. ..."
So, although the player who accidentally goes out of bounds remains eligible, he can be flagged for IP.

I guess that makes sense. Strangely worded question, though.

I think you overthought it, as you discovered, R cannot advance a try that is not good and they can't advance a scrimmage kick when a teammate signals a fair catch.

So "any scrimmage kick" would be wrong then, wouldn't it? You can't advance a try (a scrimmage kick) that isn't good and you can't advance a scrimmage kick when there's a fair catch. So you can't recover and advance "any scrimmage kick" as there are exceptions to that.

[a4caster]

Rule #23 on taking NFHS tests...
A reference that uses the words "any, never, always, all" are usually false.

[Warrenkicker]

Rule #1 on NFHS tests: Read the instructions.

NOTE: In the exam situations, A-refers to the offensive team and B-refers to their opponents the defensive team. K-refers to the kicking team and R--refers to the receiving team. A1, B1, K1 and R1 are players of these teams. If team possession changes during the down, each team retains its identity. In kicking situations, it is not during a try and no fair-catch signal has been given unless specified. Unless stated, acts occur while: the ball is inbounds; a forward pass is legal; any out-of-bounds is between the goal lines. Line means scrimmage line. Reference to a foul is to a player foul which is not unsportsmanlike. There is no foul or change of possession, unless it is mentioned, and penalties are considered accepted for enforcement.

So for #85 you might say that the word "any" implies that it could be a try or that a fair-catch signal has been given but the question doesn't specify that. 6-2-2 is the rule reference.

In #61, leaving the field does not make you ineligible. It make you an illegal participant. While those are somewhat the same one just means you can't catch a pass while the other means you can't reenter the field to do anything. 7-5-6d and 9-6-1.

[OverAndBack]

In kicking situations, it is not during a try and no fair-catch signal has been given unless specified.

D'oh!

I should learn to read, I guess.

Rule #23 on taking NFHS tests...
A reference that uses the words "any, never, always, all" are usually false.

Except this one, apparently. But only because they did put that disclaimer in at the beginning which I did not read.

In #61, leaving the field does not make you ineligible. It make you an illegal participant.

That's what *I* said! Splitting hairs, but it's technically not true.

While those are somewhat the same one just means you can't catch a pass while the other means you can't reenter the field to do anything. 7-5-6d and 9-6-1.

That's what I was going on. Though the foul that you call on that is illegal participation and not illegal touching, so I guess that's what they're talking about.

And they apparently threw out question #3 (at least my state did).

[Agreen_14]

#85 is true on the test though right?

[Warrenkicker]

I say that #61 is False and #85 is True. However we are having a meeting tonight where we will get information from the state as to the answer they want to see.