The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Football

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Sun Jun 24, 2007, 10:38am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 157
Officiating Articles

Just wanted to share a couple of articles from today's newspaper (Times-Picayune, New Orleans).

http://www.nola.com/sports/t-p/index...710.xml&coll=1

http://www.nola.com/sports/t-p/index...710.xml&coll=1

Last edited by GPC2; Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 10:51am.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Sun Jun 24, 2007, 11:54am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,305
Hidden within the article is a telling comment that shows just how little some athletic administrators really understand our avocation. The comment by Mac Chauvin:

"Times have changed. People have changed. We're not getting the quantity of people that we used to get. We're not getting the quality of people that we used to get. We used to get doctors and lawyers and those type of (professional) people. We're not getting those people any more. " "I hope the pay raise will help us get the numbers up. If the numbers are up, then maybe we can get some quality people."
-------------------

So if you are not a doctor or lawyer you are not a "quality" person? And does anyone think this pay raise is near enough money to attract someone from those professions if the only draw is the cash????
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Sun Jun 24, 2007, 03:46pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 341
And just what makes him think that doctors and lawyers are quality people?
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Sun Jun 24, 2007, 06:00pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Manitoba, Canada
Posts: 31
Send a message via Yahoo to Canfootball52
Angry

Quote:
Originally Posted by jaybird
And just what makes him think that doctors and lawyers are quality people?
It's not your profession that makes you a good official. It's how well you know your mechanics, how hard you work on the field, and how well you know the rules.
My local association does not have any doctor's or lawyers in its membership, but I'd say that we have many high quality officials. In my 11 years officiating, I've seen 4 of our members make their way to the proffesional level. None of them are doctors or lawyers. 3 are cops, and 1 is a University Professor.
Maybe Mr. Chauvin should step on the field himself, and see what it's like. If he did, I'm sure he would respect officials a lot more. Last week, at a professional pre-season game, a former player decided to step on the field to see what it was like. It seems like he appreciates the job much more now. http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/news_story/?ID=211602&hubname=cfl
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Sun Jun 24, 2007, 08:56pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Fort Myers FL
Posts: 600
First pay increase in 12 years !!!???
I'm amazed they kept anyone, considering increased costs in equipment/uniforms and gasoline to travel to meetings and games !
In New York we got regular increases in fees as they were "tied to" the
pay of teachers. I'm not sure of any connection like that here in Florida
--but it seems that fee increases are fairly regular since I've been down here.
I still maintain that officials fees are low and that higher fees would
increase our quantity and therefore give associations more power to
develop quality. All too many sport's official organizations are stuck putting
"bodies" on the field.
__________________
Keep everything in front of you
and have fun out there !!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Sun Jun 24, 2007, 09:41pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 157
I didn't necessarily get offended by that comment by Mac Chauvin, but I just wanted to clarify who he is. Chauvin is not just any athletic administrator, he is assistant commissioner of the Louisiana High School Athletic Association and one of his major responsibilities is to coordinate the officials in the state. Basically he is the top official in Louisiana.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Sun Jun 24, 2007, 10:05pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Manitoba, Canada
Posts: 31
Send a message via Yahoo to Canfootball52
Quote:
Originally Posted by SWFLguy
First pay increase in 12 years !!!???
I'm amazed they kept anyone, considering increased costs in equipment/uniforms and gasoline to travel to meetings and games !
In New York we got regular increases in fees as they were "tied to" the
pay of teachers. I'm not sure of any connection like that here in Florida
--but it seems that fee increases are fairly regular since I've been down here.
I still maintain that officials fees are low and that higher fees would
increase our quantity and therefore give associations more power to
develop quality. All too many sport's official organizations are stuck putting
"bodies" on the field.
If you're doing it for the money, you're doing it for the wrong reasons. I do it for the love of the game, and the friendships I've made over 11 seasons. I know it sounds cheesy, but it's true. Granted, it is nice to get a little reward for your time . Especially when you consider gas prices .
In my local association, we usually see a pay increase every 2 years. Our Executive sits down with every league that we work games for, and "negotiates" our "wages". We bill the leagues, and then our local association uses that money to pay us in December, which then gets spent on Christmas presents. Last year I earned over $1000.00 before deductions (membership dues, equipment purchases, etc.)
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Thu Jul 12, 2007, 05:46pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2
TXMike, This comment was not very well scripted from a PR standpoint.

However, your logic is flawed. He didnt say the only people who are quality people are doctors and lawyers. He generalized that doctors and lawyers are an example of professional people. Notice the qoute said "doctors and lawyers and those type (professional) of people". There is a third criteria mentioned.

Professionalism is the biggest problem facing Louisiana officiating. There are too many people taking matters into their own hands, not following mechanics, not enforcing rules, feeling entitled without putting in the work, and just having a bad attitude. Doctors and lawyers was surely used as a reference to the appreciation of putting your time in to achieve the top level, and adhering to strict codes of professionalism and ethics. Two things that are faining in officiating these days.
though.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Thu Jul 12, 2007, 06:55pm
RMR RMR is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 79
Quote:
Originally Posted by TXFB&BB
Professionalism is the biggest problem facing Louisiana officiating. There are too many people taking matters into their own hands, not following mechanics, not enforcing rules, feeling entitled without putting in the work, and just having a bad attitude. Doctors and lawyers was surely used as a reference to the appreciation of putting your time in to achieve the top level, and adhering to strict codes of professionalism and ethics. Two things that are faining in officiating these days.
though.
So how long have you been working in Louisiana that you are so familiar with our level of professionalism and our attitude?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Officiating.COM Article sprivitor Softball 2 Mon May 21, 2007 07:13am
Link to article re: Colorado officiating Jimgolf Basketball 9 Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:15am
Interesting article on officiating... hooper Basketball 14 Thu Jan 19, 2006 01:45pm
Jim Dixon Article (Officiating.com) mikesears Basketball 11 Fri Jun 15, 2001 11:22pm
Article on NC State-Virginia Officiating gymrat Basketball 17 Sat Feb 10, 2001 04:36pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:36pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1