Which Order to Give Signals

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Ed Hickland

I had the following play:

Fourth down. Player in position to punt. Ball goes over his head. He chases it down and immediately falls on it. B player comes in and jumps on him. Flag for late hit.

Ball went to B on downs and B was penalized 15 yards for a dead ball personal foul.

When it came time to signal I was unsure which was the correct order. Do you signal first down then dead ball personal then first down after setting chains? Or, just dead ball personal, set the chains and then first down?

I imagine the fans in the stands would be wondering why you walk off 15 then give the ball to receiving team after the penalty.

The R would whistle the play dead and stop the clock. Then throw the flag. His signalling is:

1. UR - Piling On
2. First Down to B

[Theisey]

Don't assume the live ball foul has to be on team-A. It could be just as easily on team-B therefore the signalling sequence is incorrect.

[Two Call]

Originally Posted by Theisey

Don't assume the live ball foul has to be on team-A. It could be just as easily on team-B therefore the signalling sequence is incorrect.

First point - the original post said nothing about a live-ball foul on either team. Why you muddied up the issue what that is beyond me, but OK, have your fun.
Second point - if the live-ball foul were on B, followed by a dead-ball foul on B, you would never have to worry about signaling the first down for B. Again, you're taking a very simple situation and making it very complicated.

And the cafeteria is featuring, crow served specifically for you and MCrowder.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by Two Call

And the cafeteria is featuring, crow served specifically for you and MCrowder.

Really? What in the world for? The OP made no mention whatsoever of this being a FED situation, and what I said is correct for the ruleset I work - NCAA rules. So ... why am I to eat crow?!?!

[Two Call]

Can you provide a reference for NCAA that bears you out? If so, and you are correct, I will take my crow medium well with mushrooms and onions.