Dallas vs. Seattle

[Raymond]

I say you were viewing that play through Texas-colored glasses.

My initial thought before seeing the replays was that there was a possibility that the play would be ruled incomplete for the exact reason you stated. But then after the replays I thought it was obvious that Glenn controlled the ball while standing, attempted to tuck the ball away, slipped, his bottom hand hit the turf (left hand I think), and then he got up.

[Time2Ref]

I thought that play was called correctly, after replay.

What I couldn't believe was why did Parcels have Romo as the place kick holder if he wasn't going to fake the field goal? Isn't that the back-up quarterback's job usually?

In the NFL, can they attempt a field goal on 3rd down and again on 4th down if it misses?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Time2Ref

In the NFL, can they attempt a field goal on 3rd down and again on 4th down if it misses?

They changed the rule a few years ago. It used to be if you kicked prior to 4th down and it was blocked and the K-team recovered behind the LOS they could continue with their series. Now, once they attempt their kick, they lose their series of downs, unless of course, someone pulls a Leon Lett in which case it's treated like a muffed punt.

[cmathews]

Romo, was the holder because he started the season as the backup qb, which as was pointed out above is usually the holder.....even more unusual than having the starting qb be the holder (1 team this year...the broncos while plummer was starting) is changing the holder in the middle of the year, thus romo as the holder......if this play had occured on 3rd down, they would have had the opportunity to try it again as there was no legal kick attempted

[stevesmith]

Why is no one questioning the review of the spot near the 1 yard line? Has anyone ever seen a review of a quarterback sneak that is within inches of reaching the line to gain? The camera angles just aren't that perfect to make those determinations. In this case, I think they probably got the call right, but I do have a problem with the use of replay in that situation.

[mcrowder]

My problem on the review at that 1 1/2 is a) I don't think there was an angle that gave "indisputable evidence" that he didn't achieve the line to gain and b) Even without "indisputable evidence", I think (best guess from the replays we did see) they missed it by at least 2 feet. At WORST, Witten made it a few inches short of the 1.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

My problem on the review at that 1 1/2 is a) I don't think there was an angle that gave "indisputable evidence" that he didn't achieve the line to gain and b) Even without "indisputable evidence", I think (best guess from the replays we did see) they missed it by at least 2 feet. At WORST, Witten made it a few inches short of the 1.

They determined Witten's progress by the fact that he was parrallel to the sideline, with his left shoulder making the deepest penetration, which was only the 1-yd line (at best) and the ball stayed outside his right shoulder/hip the entire time it was in his possession.

I'm TE-sized (6'5"/265lbs) and it's at least 24" (2/3 of a yd) from shoulder-to-shoulder and I'm not wearing shoulder pads. I knew from the live action view of the play that the official gave Witten way too much progress. I was screaming for a replay immediately.