HS Trick Play, Part 2

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Forksref

I don't understand why you do this? Why don't you just play the game straight up and outplay your opponent with better execution of your plays (blocking and tackling) instead of trying to deceive them?

I lose a lot of respect for coaches who try to deceive and I gain respect for those coaches who teach the game well to their players and they block and tackle better than their opponents.

Hmmm...since when has a direct snap play been illegal?? If sending our QB in motion is illegal we will stop doing it - that's the reason I asked the question in the first place...

And as for playing the game "straight up", that's a pretty ballsy comment from someone who has never seen me coach or seen my team play...we have never run this particular play in a game, and have practiced it maybe 5 times all season. But since it's on our play sheet, I wanted to make sure it was legal - seems it isn't so it will come off the play sheet.

I coach at a small private HS - we had 20 kids to start the season, have lost two to injuries and have played the last 4 games (with two more to go) with 18 players (playing 11-man football)...my kids are some of the gutsiest, hardest-hitting kids I've ever been around...they play hard and they play well.

And as for wheteh or not you respect me as a coach, all I can do is shrug...

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Hmmm...since when has a direct snap play been illegal?? If sending our QB in motion is illegal we will stop doing it - that's the reason I asked the question in the first place...

It's not. The play you describe is though.

And as for playing the game "straight up", that's a pretty ballsy comment from someone who has never seen me coach or seen my team play...

We run a direct snap play where the QB stops before going under center (stands next to the fullback), looks at the defense, tries to look confused, starts shaking his head and walking toward the sideline (without saying a word), and then the ball is snapped to the fullback and away we go...

Yeah ...ok. you play the game straight up ... except for the play that this whole post is about. Whatever. think what you like about yourself, but it's not accurate.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

Yeah ...ok. you play the game straight up ... except for the play that this whole post is about. Whatever. think what you like about yourself, but it's not accurate.

Did you actually read my last post? We've never run it, and now that I know it's illegal we never will...so YOU think whatever you want about me, because I know who is accurate and who isn't...

And thanks to Bob M, Bob Mc, Rick KY, and others who answered the question for me...

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Did you actually read my last post? We've never run it, and now that I know it's illegal we never will...so YOU think whatever you want about me, because I know who is accurate and who isn't...

And thanks to Bob M, Bob Mc, Rick KY, and others who answered the question for me...

So what did you mean by the statement that began (in the OP) "We run a direct snap play...."? Did you lie then, or did you lie now?

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

So what did you mean by the statement that began (in the OP) "We run a direct snap play...."? Did you lie then, or did you lie now?

Wow... I said we have run it in practice...never run it in a game. Running it in practice is running it, no? But as I said, now that I know it's not legal, we won't run it (in practice or in a game, try to keep up here) anymore. Didn't lie then, not lying now...

[Forksref]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Hmmm...since when has a direct snap play been illegal?? If sending our QB in motion is illegal we will stop doing it - that's the reason I asked the question in the first place...

And as for playing the game "straight up", that's a pretty ballsy comment from someone who has never seen me coach or seen my team play...we have never run this particular play in a game, and have practiced it maybe 5 times all season. But since it's on our play sheet, I wanted to make sure it was legal - seems it isn't so it will come off the play sheet.

I coach at a small private HS - we had 20 kids to start the season, have lost two to injuries and have played the last 4 games (with two more to go) with 18 players (playing 11-man football)...my kids are some of the gutsiest, hardest-hitting kids I've ever been around...they play hard and they play well.

And as for wheteh or not you respect me as a coach, all I can do is shrug...

I don't understand why the number of kids on a team comes into a discussion of legality and ethics. Hopefully, lack of numbers is not an excuse for trying to deceive your opponent. Whether a play is legal or not is not the same as if it is ethical or not to deceive your opponent. Deceptions occur in real life even though they are legal. Sounds like with the hard-hitting gutsy kids that you have that you won't need to rely on deceiving your opponent. Playing hard and playing well is all you can ask of them.

Continued good luck in your coaching.