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[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by MJT

If you repeated the down, 2nd-2 from the 32, yes if it was only a 5 yard FM. There is no need to have the flag at the spot of the foul as since it is by the defense, the foul will never be enforced from the spot of the foul.[*]
Your enforcement spot is correct. In NF it would be a 15 yarder enforced from the goal line.

Thanks.

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MJT - you say that the foul will never be enforced from the spot of the foul, and then in the 2nd sitch, you enforce from the spot of the foul. Odd.

Edited to add - ok, I get it on the 2nd now. My bad. Responded too quickly.

[OverAndBack]

Right, the "spot" of the foul in the first instance doesn't matter for that particular foul, just pointing out that that related run ended at a certain point prior to the end of the play. You still have to throw the flag, but where it lands doesn't matter for that particular foul (unlike for a hold, for example).

In the second one, we're not enforcing from the spot of the foul, but since the end of the related run was behind the goal line, we have to enforce from the goal line.

If the quarterback had thrown the ball incomplete, would it have been enforced from the previous spot (the 1 yard line)? Not that it mattered in the end.

[Smiley]

In the second one, wouldn't it be 1st and 1 from the ten?

[mcrowder]

PF FM = Auto 1st down

[Forksref]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

PF FM = Auto 1st down

Not in FED ball. Only automatics are the 3 roughings and DPI.

[MJT]

Originally Posted by Forksref

Not in FED ball. Only automatics are the 3 roughings and DPI.

You must be considering RTKicker and RTHolder to be one to have 3 roughings and not 4?

[Forksref]

Originally Posted by MJT

You must be considering RTKicker and RTHolder to be one to have 3 roughings and not 4?

Yep RTK/H as one.