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I switched last year. Love it, will never go back to iron mask. It's lighter, cooler, safer, and offers greater vision.
However, let's not get into a discussion about hats! WMB 
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 Now that I no longer do FP, I really don't have to worry about it.
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Sat Jan 24, 2004, 11:08am
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With the expectations of different sanctioning bodies, hats may well be an issue. However, I've got a lightweight mask and am comfortable & content with it.
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Sat Jan 24, 2004, 12:55pm
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The helmet may very well be the wave of the future, but if so there will have to be some adjustments to uniform regulations. Consider me a stickler, but if the uniform requirements say I have to wear a logo hat, that is what I wear, even for league single umpire games where no one is there to enforce the regulation.
Sure, you can stuff a hat under the helmet, especially one of those old beanies, if you can still find them with the required logo. But, I can see it now... if you want to wear a helmet, you'll have to by one in solid navy blue with the sanctioning body's logo painted on the front. Uh oh... I hope I didn't give them an idea!  Personally, I'm satisfied with my lightweight mask, but maybe it's just that I've not tried a helmet and am in a "don't know what I'm missing" situation.
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Sat Jan 24, 2004, 12:59pm
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say it is a required item...The only two people I know that have tried the hockey style mask could not wear a hat and were informed by the UIC to either change mask or wear the hat....
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Sat Jan 24, 2004, 01:06pm
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I don't think I would like a helmet, though I haven't tried one. My light make works just fine for me. There is the question of the hat also.
Plus I don't think I want to spend $300.00 for a helmet.
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Sat Jan 24, 2004, 02:55pm
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Sat Jan 24, 2004, 04:07pm
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and how would Cecil feel about his partner "Beanie"? Sorry, Cecil - just showing my age & smart mouth a bit with this one.
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Sat Jan 24, 2004, 04:40pm
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Steve, Tom, Mike, and Bob.
You all memtioned having the light weight mask. Which one do you use. I have two, the Gerry Davis and SUL. The Gerry Davis low profile does take some pratice taking off and leaving the hat on. NO, I will not go to a Beenie.
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Sat Jan 24, 2004, 06:28pm
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I've got one of the older metal lightweights. I forget who made it - I've had it for several years. I've seen the flexing that a composite does and I'd have to think long & hard before deciding to use one of them. In my younger & dumber days, I thought I could make a living as a fighter & have a nose that's been broken several times - it's kinda sensitive to touch now so I try to keep it protected.
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Sat Jan 24, 2004, 09:30pm
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I was actually considering buying one of these for the new season. There is a store around here that sells them for only $75.00 which I don't think is that bad of a deal. I'm just not sure when I'll get a chance to use it considering PIAA wants hats worn... not getting into a hat discussion, of course. There's always rec leagues, I guess.
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Sat Jan 24, 2004, 10:25pm
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I wear the All-Star composite mask. I love it. I know it got a bad reputation a few years ago, but I've had no problems at all with it. It's lighter than the ultra light metal mask. I have no problem taking it off unless I have a brain slip and wear the 6 stitch hat. Then I have to be a little more concious of taking the mask off. I've got a few friends who use the hockey mask and they wouldn't take anything for them. I might bring up the hat issue at the next meeting we have, just to start some excitement.
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Sat Jan 24, 2004, 10:53pm
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BigUmpJohn,
Do you work with Steve on ocassions? Just curious.
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