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Old Sat Sep 16, 2006, 12:29pm
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1st Down Mark Question

I'm watching Iowa play Iowa State. The Iowa receiver made a first down reception, then was flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct after the play. They mark off 15 yards.

Questions: Why was it 1st and 10 after the penalty? Shouldn't it be 1st and 25? Why would they also move the 1st down marker back 15 yards? It must be the rule but it doesn't seem right.
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Old Sat Sep 16, 2006, 12:36pm
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I can't speak for NCAA, but in FED the penalty is marked off, then the chains set. The only time you have anything other than 1/10 is when you have a foul after the ready for play.
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Old Sat Sep 16, 2006, 04:32pm
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I can't speak for NCAA, but in FED the penalty is marked off, then the chains set. The only time you have anything other than 1/10 is when you have a foul after the ready for play.
Same for NCAA.
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Old Sat Sep 16, 2006, 05:08pm
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There was a whole lot of talking going on that entire game by both sides, as there usually is in most rivalry games.

Good USC call on Chandler (receiver mentioned in the OP), and they probably should've got Tait (IA QB) for one after one of his runs ended OB on the ISU sideline, and waived the ball in an ISU bench-player's face after some more talking, in a taunting-type manner.

In any event, Go Hawks.
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Old Sat Sep 16, 2006, 10:22pm
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The USC was dead ball, so the play resulted in a first down, penalty was dead ball so it was marked off from the end of the play and chain set, first and ten after the 15 yard penalty was marked off.

same NCAA
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Old Sat Sep 16, 2006, 10:33pm
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Thanks for the responses.

If this foul had occured after a team got stuffed on 2nd and goal from the opponents 3 yard line (setting up a 3rd and goal without the penalty), and the ball is marched back to the 18, what would the upcoming down and distance be?
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Old Sat Sep 16, 2006, 10:35pm
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still dead ball foul, would be 3rd on the 18 yard line.

Just another footnote, I was emotional for the kid who had lost his father earlier in the week. I can remember back when my father passed away, he was buried on my 18th birthday. I had been contacted by a university for a scholarship to play football, was waiting to tell my family on my birthday, my father never ever knew. I love you dad.

I wish this kid the best, never knew of him until tonight, now I am his biggest fan. I just cannot pronounce his name.

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