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Old Thu Sep 07, 2006, 10:01am
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Can the center turn the football completely sidways when he adjusts the ball for the snap. I was sure that this was not legal, but two veteran officials told me that as longs as the center did not pick the ball up, it was legal. So, I read them 7-1-2 which says:

"The snapper may lif the ball for lateral rotation but may not rotate end for end or change the location or fail to keep the long axis of the ball at right angles to the line of scrimmage"

Am I misinterpreting this phrase? Because even after I quoted this rule, both officials still said it was legal to turn the ball sideways.
If he is just adjusting it why are we digger for an infraction here. Let' not be looking for something to call!
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Old Thu Sep 07, 2006, 10:21am
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If he is just adjusting it why are we digger for an infraction here. Let' not be looking for something to call!
He is not merely adjusting it, he is turning the ball completely sideways. Does the neutral zone turn sideways with it? The forward point of the ball has changes also. I mean I have seen this done in little league before, but in 9th grade? I never threw a flag on this. I just told the center not to do it.
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Old Thu Sep 07, 2006, 10:25am
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He is not merely adjusting it, he is turning the ball completely sideways. Does the neutral zone turn sideways with it? The forward point of the ball has changes also. I mean I have seen this done in little league before, but in 9th grade? I never threw a flag on this. I just told the center not to do it.
No, the NZ is the NZ. Again, it isn't worth bothering with - it's not going to draw the defense offside, it gains no material advantage, and the lack of a call is expected by the other team's coach. Don't bother with this one.
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Old Thu Sep 07, 2006, 10:42am
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No, the NZ is the NZ. Again, it isn't worth bothering with - it's not going to draw the defense offside, it gains no material advantage, and the lack of a call is expected by the other team's coach. Don't bother with this one.
OK! I can live with that.
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Old Thu Sep 07, 2006, 10:46am
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What are you going to do if he rotates the ball end of end?
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Old Thu Sep 07, 2006, 10:49am
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What are you going to do if he rotates the ball end of end?

He can't pick it up, he did state is was 9th grade, I hope we can be educational and use a little preventive officiating here.
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Old Thu Sep 07, 2006, 11:52am
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What are you going to do if he rotates the ball end of end?
At any age - "Don't do that". Probably at least twice before I flag this. Probably even twice, followed by a word sent to the coach to tell the kid to cut it out, before I flag this.

Don't pick nits. Officiate the game, don't over-officiate the game. Rule WITH the book. And 10 other cliches that say the same thing.
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Old Thu Sep 07, 2006, 12:24pm
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At any age - "Don't do that". Probably at least twice before I flag this. Probably even twice, followed by a word sent to the coach to tell the kid to cut it out, before I flag this.

Don't pick nits. Officiate the game, don't over-officiate the game. Rule WITH the book. And 10 other cliches that say the same thing.
Mcrowder has it right, we need to manage the game, not be part of it.
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