12 men breaking the huddle

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I agree with the 3 to 5 second window. I think it really is up to the white hat to watch the situation and make the call based on his opinion as to what "immediate" is considered.

I really don't want to give coaches that easially quantifable criteria if its wrong. Thats where I think as officials we ALWAYS need to avoid the term "breaking the huddle with 12 players". Its not the rule, and while the spirit of the federation rule is very similar, its not the same absolute cut and dry measurement as to if a foul has occured. There is that discression allowed to the referee to let it pass if it wasn't intended to gain an advantage or deliberate in nature.