illegal substitution

[irefky]

Originally Posted by dokeeffe

Better - flag the A team coach for unsportsmanlike conduct (intentional confusing play) - when he strongly objects throw another on him and put him on the bus. Can you tell I do a lot of baseball?

Becareful with the ejection in football. In comparison, a player loses much much more if ejected in football than baseball. With at least 10 games and post season and in baseball, what 30+ games a year. A player and team gets punished severly in football than any other sport.

I guess in football, it's an agressive sport and officials need to bite their tongue a little more than any other sport. Now, if you have any penalties or behaviors that affect the safety of a player, sure ejection is fine. I am just using the situation that our baseball umpire gave us.

I agree, in baseball I am much more strict for some reason as compared to football and me giving you the above is why. That is another topic and off of this one, sorry, my .10 worth.

[RoyGardner]

This type of play, even if it is based on a real "mistake" and not "planned" ahead of time is IMO one of those few plays where the possible "downside" of letting the play go off far outwieghs the possible "downside" of simply blowing the play dead before or at the snap and sorting it out then.

IMO in both codes there are multiple rules that are clearly intended to make sure that it is very obvious what 11 players are "really" going to be in the upcoming play, and when either team gets into the "now I'm in, now I'm not in" mode it's time for some preventative officiating.

IMO we blow it dead, sort it out, penalize if needed, talk to the coaches and move on. That's much better than having the discussion at halftime, or at the end of the game, that we should have flagged that "trick play" that resulted in a score.

[ljudge]

Originally Posted by irefky

Becareful with the ejection in football. In comparison, a player loses much much more if ejected in football than baseball. With at least 10 games and post season and in baseball, what 30+ games a year. A player and team gets punished severly in football than any other sport.

And, in New Jersey if you have 3 or more DQ's on any one team during the season they forfeit their right to play in the post season tournament.