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Old Fri Mar 24, 2006, 10:19am
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not necessarily

Holding is one of the few calls that you don't really need to see intial contact.....of course it is always best if you do, but in a holding situation everything can start legal, hands inside the framework, then as the defensive player goes a different direction a hold occurs. It isn't like a block in the back where it starts legal then moves to the back...I think that the NFL reviewing this is just the competition committee (ie coaches) whining. They also want to look at making the defense make an effort to stay away from the QB's legs. As far as I knew this was already in place, and the play they are using to justify it is the Carson Palmer hit. That didn't intentionally go for his legs, he was knocked down, kept trying to pursue and it ended up that way.....
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Old Sun Mar 26, 2006, 01:21pm
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The holding call was there, and it was obvious. Watching the play real time, I said outloud, 'holding; I wonder if the R or the U will see it.'

Sure enough, after the play ended, they said flag on the play. I said "they got the holding call," and the R announced it.

Then, they showed the replay from the end zone and John Madden said, "that doesn't look like holding to me" or something. Had they shown the sideline angle, it would have been obvious.
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Old Fri Mar 31, 2006, 11:40am
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The holding call was there, and it was obvious. Watching the play real time, I said outloud, 'holding; I wonder if the R or the U will see it.'

Sure enough, after the play ended, they said flag on the play. I said "they got the holding call," and the R announced it.

Then, they showed the replay from the end zone and John Madden said, "that doesn't look like holding to me" or something. Had they shown the sideline angle, it would have been obvious.
I agree that it was holding on that play but i was confused on the illegal block by Hasselbeck during the interception runback.
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Old Fri Mar 31, 2006, 03:29pm
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I agree that it was holding on that play but i was confused on the illegal block by Hasselbeck during the interception runback.
I am pretty sure that the league said that was a bad call.
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