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A friend of mine, who was my referee when I was a LJ had an interesting issue to deal with last week. Him and his umpire attempted to enter the field to meet with the coaches to get captains, etc. and a police officer put his forearm across the chest of the R and asked him where he thought he was going. His response was "to meet with the coach so excuse me sir." He attempted to walk thru the gate when the officer put his forearm against the referee again.
The R said "excuse me but I have a job to do, is there a problem here." The officer said no officials are allowed on the field until the coach verifies with the officer that an official isn't on his "strike out list." The R politely responded..."OK, I'm going to go back to locker room and call my assigner and we're going to make a call on your school forefeiting this game." The coach of course bolted over and allowed the R on the field. I liked his response and I guess I'll use it for Turkey Day as my crew has this same team. I never heard of such a thing and thought to share. 
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Wed Oct 26, 2005, 11:45am
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Wed Oct 26, 2005, 11:48am
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If that was me... I would have told the officer after the first time he put his hand on my chest... "either one of two things was going to happen, One he was going to step aside and my officiating crew was going to call the game or Two, he was going to stop me from entering the field a second time, and my offiating crew was going home for the night!"
There is absolutely no reason for a crew to be stopped by an officer henchman prior to entering a game site. And that is all I got to say about that!
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Wed Oct 26, 2005, 12:25pm
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I hope there are several letters in the mail already. The school's AD, the principal, the league and/or state association involved, maybe the cop's boss (for his physical action), and anybody else you can think of.
This goes right back to the question about coaches "black lists) Maybe your association should "black list" any game where this guy is on the sideline. And make sure that no other association will work him either. Of course this would cause a real hullabalu. But, if a coach can blacklist officials, why shouldn't the officials have the same priviledge? May it will take something like this to bring the situation to someone's serious attention.
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Wed Oct 26, 2005, 12:42pm
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What Jim S said. I would have been VERY tempted to go back to the locker room, have the crew go home.
But I agree, letters all around to anyone who was and is remotely involved in athletics at that school and in that community.
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Wed Oct 26, 2005, 01:34pm
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Wed Oct 26, 2005, 02:20pm
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The person who was assaulted by the police officer (and he was) should file a complaint with the local government who hired the officer. Unless there is credible evidence that more people are dressed as officials and attempting to enter the field than are authorized, he has no jurisdiction over anything the official did. Its not his job to "enforce" the personal wishes of the coach.
Further, there should be a game administrator present who handles this situation. At the very least the association should contact the district and let them know that they are risking a forfeit if this situation occurs again. Tell them that other arrangements for police protection should be made (i.e., another officer). This should not be tolerated under ANY circumstance.
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Wed Oct 26, 2005, 04:46pm
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Wed Oct 26, 2005, 04:57pm
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I know of at least 1 coach who said we'd never work his game again but as far as I know he hasn't turned us in to the police yet.
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Wed Oct 26, 2005, 05:12pm
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Bob, you may or may not know this school. It's Woodrow Wilson right in the heart of Camden City. I have the Camden v. Woodrow game on Turkey Day. It's my understanding a letter has been sent to the school and I don't expect any issues. It's two cross-town inner city rivals. I can't wait for the contest...it draws approx. 4,000 people.
I should have been more clear about extending his arm across his chest. He definitely stuck it out there but I didn't ask if actual contact was made (might have been) but I'm not 100% of that fact. I didn't mean to imply that it was so please accept my apologies if I misled anyone. I would hardly call it assault even if contact was slight. But that's not the issue it's simply rude to put your hand out across (or in front) of someone's chest as they're trying to walk by and stopping them as if you're a hard-@ss with authority and a badge. I plan to call the AD ahead of time and ensure this is a non issue. Oh yeah, one more comment. He said "Please put me on your scratch list." [Edited by ljudge on Oct 26th, 2005 at 06:24 PM]
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Wed Oct 26, 2005, 05:28pm
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While this incident sounds terrible on its face, we don't know what the officer was actually told by the coach. Perhaps the officer misunderstood the coach. I'd hold off on all these threats of walkouts, etc until all the facts are known. And as for the guy putting his arm up in front of someone...come on guys...are we that sensitive that we get so easily offended??? I doubt it or we would not be in this avocation anyway.
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