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REPLY: Just my thoughts...in this mix-up--which could have been prevented by proper crew techniques--one official (H) apparently saw the ball cross the goal. Sounds like the other wing (L) didn't see it. That doesn't mean it didn't happen; just means he didn't see it. I would give the benefit of the doubt to the TD call unless the L says that he saw the runner down prior to the ball crossing the goal. I'm pretty much going along with Roamin Umpire's thoughts here.
Hey R-U...parallax ?!?! Stephen Hawking would be proud of you!!
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How can you know that? quote: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Originally posted by WindyCityBlue I cannot argue Football mechanics, but I can relate to poor judgement and the necessity to right a wrong. Maybe some day, you will see my point, but I will concede that some officials do not share my passion. It may seem hollow, but if I have offended you, I apologize. My intention was to argue the points on merit and this discussion became a pissing contest. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If you do not know football mechanics at all how can you talk about poor judgement and how it relates to football? Don't you have to understand mechanics before you understand good or bad calls and how to correct them? I don't need to pick up a pile of sh*t and take a bite to know it will taste bad. I don't need to be a police officer to know that what they did to Rodney King was an exhibotion in poor judgement. I do not need to be a football official to know that a guy signalled completion on a ball that is on the ground. Apparently you don't understand the meaning of poor judgement, since you just opend a closed wound. |
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Huh? What?
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I am completely lost by your post. Can you please learn how to keep a post in quotes? It is not that damn difficult. It would be easier to follow and understand what you are commenting on. I only commented on mirroring an official. My comments were shorter than this current post. It seems like you are just trying to create a situation to act like a 5 year old once again.
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Re: Huh? What?
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For the record.....
I am the person that locked the last thread.
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You locked the last thread???
Don't you mean, the Moderator locked the last thread after you made racial overtures again? Another Jeff Rutledge lie...since when do you have the authority to close a thread here? PS2Man, I'll go slow...try to keep up. You said, "If you do not know football mechanics at all how can you talk about poor judgement and how it relates to football? Don't you have to understand mechanics before you understand good or bad calls and how to correct them?" To which I replied... "I don't need to pick up a pile of sh*t and take a bite to know it will taste bad. I don't need to be a police officer to know that what they did to Rodney King was an exhibition in poor judgement. I do not need to be a football official to know that a guy signalled completion on a ball that is on the ground. Apparently you don't understand the meaning of poor judgement, since you just opend a closed wound." I apologized for offending you and then...who acted like the 5 year old? Yes, that would be the person standing in front of your mirror. Take a close look before you start throwing stones again. I thought this was behind us, but I guess I underestimated your ability to handle an apology. You now claim that one cannot recognize poor judgement without being associated with it in some way. I can't believe that you taught your children that. |
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WCB, PS2 & Rut,
No offensive to any of you personally, but if you 3 want to continue this, why don't you take it to an AOL chat room or something, because this no long has anything to do with football. Two of you being senior members should know this. I use to be able to read every post a get some good info out of them. That no longer seems to be the case. Please take this somewhere else and lets talk football. |
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Rut, I closed it. I think you could have done that (because you started the thread) if you would have gone to administrative options at the bottom and just clicked on open/close thread When it asks for identification, I think your name would've been there and you could have just clicked enter. If you wanna try it, I'll re-open it and you can close it. mick Mick then email me today. Looks like you made it happen. mick This was all after I had requested mick close the thread. I had the last word after 12:00am when I got home and closed the thread. Anyone can delete or close the thread that they start. I started the thread, and after mick reminded me, I closed it. Peace
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Maybe my confusion is that I do not understand the definition of "decision" and "overrule". Until your post, I thought the L made a decision when he signaled TD, and I thought the LJ made a decision when he signaled no TD. If, as you assert, the decision is not made until the call is final, then there is never an overrule. If a flag is thrown for a clip, but the Referee, with no discussion, tells the official to put his flag back in his pocket and the game goes on without a penalty being assessed, that is not an "overrule" as it occurred before the final "decision" was made. If we had all been working from these definitions, the discussion whould have ended long ago. |
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I am only going to address your football comment.
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To summarize your play. In your example the H and HL cannot have it both ways. We have to make a decision one way or another. It is very likely someone will get criticized for making a call that they did not see. So what you have to do is have whoever's side the ball was on or decide who had a better look at the play. But that is why you hear the term, “SEE LEATHER" so often. If you do not see the ball, you should never blow your whistle on tackles and TD plays. That is a perfect recipe for an inadvertent whistle or disaster. Quote:
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