Question

acasto · #1 (**permalink**) Mon Jan 12, 2004, 07:38am

Greetings from Serbia (ex Yougoslavia)!

I have question about rules.

Here is situation:

Team A kicks ball (kick off) ball hits the ground inbound and then goes in end zone where is cought by KICKING team.

I think this is touchback, but I'm not sure. Help please.

Theisey · #2 (**permalink**) Mon Jan 12, 2004, 07:46am

NCAA: Since the ball has not touched the ground in the EZ, it is not a touchback until that receiver takes a knee in the EZ. Live ball until then. If he decided to run it out, the clock would start when he crossed the plane of the goal line.

I am pretty sure NFL rules are the same. ie not a TB yet.

(I doubt you play football using NFHS rules, so I'll not even mention the ruling for that code.)

#### OUCH!!!! my bad! My eyes saw you wrote kicking team, my brain said you wrote receiving team.
That must have been one heck of a fast kicking team player.
Regardless, as TXMike states.. TD for Team-A.

I hope you are not going to tell us this really happened?

[Edited by Theisey on Jan 12th, 2004 at 08:02 AM]

acasto · #3 (**permalink**) Mon Jan 12, 2004, 07:54am

I didn't understand you, lets add, runner of kicking team catch ball in end zone and goes out of bounds. what happen next, where is ball is it tochdown, touchback.....

TXMike · #4 (**permalink**) Mon Jan 12, 2004, 08:31am

If the KICKING team player gets possession of the ball, it is a TD. Once he has possession, ball is dead, so does not matter if he goes out of bounds after that. It is already a TD.

Snake~eyes · #5 (**permalink**) Mon Jan 12, 2004, 01:26pm

NFHS: Touchback, anytime a kick enters R's endzone it is a touchback. Make sure to look up definition of when a kick ends too.

James Neil · #6 (**permalink**) Mon Jan 12, 2004, 01:34pm

Quote:

Originally posted by TXMike
If the KICKING team player gets possession of the ball, it is a TD. Once he has possession, ball is dead, so does not matter if he goes out of bounds after that. It is already a TD.

Under NFHS rules nether K or R could actually catch a kick in Rs end zone, as all legal kicks are dead as soon as the ball brakes the plane of the goal line. Also under Fed rules K is restricted from catching a free kick anywhere on the field unless its first touched by R (even with no R player in the vicinity). Am I right in assuming that under NCAA rules K isn't restricted from catching a free kick seeing as how youve ruled a TD?

Bob M. · #7 (**permalink**) Mon Jan 12, 2004, 02:20pm

That's correct Jim. According to NCAA rules, Team A can legally touch a free kick once:
(a) the ball touches a Team B player, or
(b) the kick breaks the plane of B's restraining line and remains there, or
(c) the kick touches any player, official, the ground, or anything beyond Team B's restraining line.

acasto · #8 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 13, 2004, 12:53am

Like I said:

Ball hits the ground inbound (becomes live-ball) and then goes in EZ where is cought by K's.

Snake~eyes · #9 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 13, 2004, 01:45am

This is still a touchback in NFHS. Once a kick crosses R's endzone plane it is a touchback.

acasto · #10 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 13, 2004, 05:34am

Quote:

Originally posted by Theisey

#### OUCH!!!! my bad! My eyes saw you wrote kicking team, my brain said you wrote receiving team.
That must have been one heck of a fast kicking team player.
Regardless, as TXMike states.. TD for Team-A.

I hope you are not going to tell us this really happened?

[Edited by Theisey on Jan 12th, 2004 at 08:02 AM]

Yes, it happend in 4th american footbal* game in serbian history, we still don't have league but only friendly matches. That match was played on NFL rules, now we are playing on NCAA rules but without any equipment (no helmets,etc).

*
American Football - $ Football
Football - $ Soccer

About sitution that I explained earlier, Your thoughts are separeted. Someone thinks TD, others TB, what's right?

P.S.
Sory about my bad english

Middleman · #11 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 13, 2004, 07:05am

Quote:

Originally posted by acasto

Yes, it happend in 4th american footbal* game in serbian history, we still don't have league but only friendly matches. That match was played on NFL rules, now we are playing on NCAA rules but without any equipment (no helmets,etc).

*
American Football - $ Football
Football - $ Soccer

About sitution that I explained earlier, Your thoughts are separeted. Someone thinks TD, others TB, what's right?

P.S.
Sory about my bad english

As you can see, we play football by different sets of rules, and the answer to your question is different depending on the level of play.

You are playing by NCAA rules. Your answer: Touchdown