Illegal Participation Spot of Enforcement

[paulsonj72]

Just to clarify illegal participation is 15 yards from the spot of the foul(basic spot) unless it occurs during a loose ball play in which case it is enforced at the previous spot. We had a situation in the Minnesota 9 man championship game today where we had an a receiver step out of bounds and come back in during a forward pass(loose ball) and as such the penalty was 15 yards from the previous spot. And FWIW the officials on the field missed the call during the play. For Semi Finals and Finals in Minnesota only the NCAA replay rule is used and that is how the foul was caught.

[Robert Goodman]

How's the spot of this type of foul during a running play determined? Is it where the player re-entered the field, or is it where he first subsequently "participated" in play? Or even the most advantageous spot at which he participated?

[HLin NC]

9-6-1

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

9-6-1

But that just says for a running play, "basic spot". Does that mean it supersedes the all-but-one principle in case the foul was by the offense behind the basic spot?

Suppose a player of A returns to the field illegally at the 50 yard line during a down with no change of possession, then blocks an opponent at the B40, blocks another at the B30, all during the same run which ends at the B20. Is the penalty enforced automatically from the B20, or is it from one of those other spots?

[HLin NC]

If you can research rule 9, then you can also research rule 2.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

If you can research rule 9, then you can also research rule 2.

I don't see how the definition of basic spot resolves my question.

[CT1]

You guys are making this waaay more complicated than it needs to be. If you deem his actions to be illegal, the spot of the foul is where he reenters the field. The basic spot is either end of run (running play) or previous spot (loose ball play).

[paulsonj72]

I have another question regarding Illegal Participation? If a player(like a pass receiver) is forced out of bounds(pushed) under the NFHS rules is he allowed to reenter the play. I don't have my old rule books anymore so I can't look this up or I would

[CT1]

Originally Posted by paulsonj72

I have another question regarding Illegal Participation? If a player(like a pass receiver) is forced out of bounds(pushed) under the NFHS rules is he allowed to reenter the play. I don't have my old rule books anymore so I can't look this up or I would

Yes, as long as he does so at his first opportunity.

[paulsonj72]

Originally Posted by CT1

Yes, as long as he does so at his first opportunity.

Thank you Wasn't sure of that