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Old Sat Nov 03, 2018, 08:23pm
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Suplex Tackle

I know I have seen college games where a player makes a suplex tackle, and it was penalized. Can someone tell me if there is a Fed rule that makes this illegal?

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Old Sat Nov 03, 2018, 08:24pm
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I know I have seen college games where a player makes a suplex tackle, and it was penalized. Can someone tell me if there is a Fed rule that makes this illegal?



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I know I have seen college games where a player makes a suplex tackle, and it was penalized. Can someone tell me if there is a Fed rule that makes this illegal?

Hope that helps.

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An official can always deem a play to be unnecessary roughness.


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If ever there was a disqualifying foul at ANY LEVEL, this was it.
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Old Sun Nov 04, 2018, 03:28pm
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If ever there was a disqualifying foul at ANY LEVEL, this was it.
A penalty for sure. Ejection? Maybe but not a slam dunk.

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Old Sun Nov 04, 2018, 07:42pm
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A penalty for sure. Ejection? Maybe but not a slam dunk.

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Agree. The whistle was very late, and there was no apparent intent to injure.

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Old Mon Nov 05, 2018, 11:22am
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PF Unnecessary roughness is a judgement call and likely here. Ejection personally, I hope not.
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Old Mon Nov 05, 2018, 01:06pm
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SPIKEING the ball is an UNC foul, deliberately SPIKING a player is a big notch higher. Would that action be acceptable in a Wrestling Match?
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Old Mon Nov 05, 2018, 02:05pm
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SPIKEING the ball is an UNC foul, deliberately SPIKING a player is a big notch higher. Would that action be acceptable in a Wrestling Match?
I think that exact move is worth 3 points in greco-roman wrestling
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Old Mon Nov 05, 2018, 03:24pm
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Yes, it is, but football is not wrestling, even though wrestling skills could transfer to football tackling techniques. I think that the defensive coordinator (or position coach) of the player needs to remind him that he should not use wrestling moves in a football game.
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Old Mon Nov 05, 2018, 03:46pm
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The only way I'm considering ejection is if the kid is spiked on his head. Otherwise, it's 15 and we move on.
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I've seen it penalized. I've seen it not penalized. Thankfully I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen that kind of tackle in a high school game in 16 seasons.
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I've had it once. 15 and moved on.
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How does one judge unnecessary roughness? I know Fed rules don't exactly use that phrase now to describe what's still labeled "unnecessary roughness", but it seems a literal application of that phrase would be a good baseline. If a player goes out of the way to do something rough to an opponent that doesn't help the team's position in comparison w other things he could've done, I'd say that's UR.

In this case, probably so. The tackler could equally easily have swung the player around still upright to accomplish the same result, I think. Or he could've started like the suplex, but then gone down himself on his own back, pulling the runner down on top of him, instead of slinging him over himself. It seems more difficult, for no tactical advantage, to use the suplex move.
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Perhaps, but NFHS does describe "FLAGRANT" (2-16-2-c) as, "a foul so severe or extreme that it places an opponent in danger of serious injury......".

Ignored "flagrant" behavior has a nasty habit of encouraging retaliation.
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