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airraider Sat Nov 03, 2018 08:23pm

Suplex Tackle
 
I know I have seen college games where a player makes a suplex tackle, and it was penalized. Can someone tell me if there is a Fed rule that makes this illegal?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJY06RboxzY

Rich Sat Nov 03, 2018 08:24pm

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Originally Posted by airraider (Post 1025680)
I know I have seen college games where a player makes a suplex tackle, and it was penalized. Can someone tell me if there is a Fed rule that makes this illegal?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJY06RboxzY



An official can always deem a play to be unnecessary roughness.


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JRutledge Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:11am

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Originally Posted by airraider (Post 1025680)
I know I have seen college games where a player makes a suplex tackle, and it was penalized. Can someone tell me if there is a Fed rule that makes this illegal?

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Hope that helps.

Peace

ajmc Sun Nov 04, 2018 02:08pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 1025681)
An official can always deem a play to be unnecessary roughness.


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If ever there was a disqualifying foul at ANY LEVEL, this was it.

JRutledge Sun Nov 04, 2018 03:28pm

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Originally Posted by ajmc (Post 1025689)
If ever there was a disqualifying foul at ANY LEVEL, this was it.

A penalty for sure. Ejection? Maybe but not a slam dunk.

Peace

CT1 Sun Nov 04, 2018 07:42pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1025690)
A penalty for sure. Ejection? Maybe but not a slam dunk.

Peas

Agree. The whistle was very late, and there was no apparent intent to injure.

YMMV

BIG UMP Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:22am

PF Unnecessary roughness is a judgement call and likely here. Ejection personally, I hope not.

ajmc Mon Nov 05, 2018 01:06pm

SPIKEING the ball is an UNC foul, deliberately SPIKING a player is a big notch higher. Would that action be acceptable in a Wrestling Match?

scrounge Mon Nov 05, 2018 02:05pm

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Originally Posted by ajmc (Post 1025709)
SPIKEING the ball is an UNC foul, deliberately SPIKING a player is a big notch higher. Would that action be acceptable in a Wrestling Match?

I think that exact move is worth 3 points in greco-roman wrestling :D

ilyazhito Mon Nov 05, 2018 03:24pm

Yes, it is, but football is not wrestling, even though wrestling skills could transfer to football tackling techniques. I think that the defensive coordinator (or position coach) of the player needs to remind him that he should not use wrestling moves in a football game.

Rich Mon Nov 05, 2018 03:46pm

The only way I'm considering ejection is if the kid is spiked on his head. Otherwise, it's 15 and we move on.

voiceoflg Mon Nov 05, 2018 04:22pm

I've seen it penalized. I've seen it not penalized. Thankfully I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen that kind of tackle in a high school game in 16 seasons.

Jimmie24 Mon Nov 05, 2018 04:52pm

I've had it once. 15 and moved on.

Robert Goodman Mon Nov 05, 2018 07:58pm

How does one judge unnecessary roughness? I know Fed rules don't exactly use that phrase now to describe what's still labeled "unnecessary roughness", but it seems a literal application of that phrase would be a good baseline. If a player goes out of the way to do something rough to an opponent that doesn't help the team's position in comparison w other things he could've done, I'd say that's UR.

In this case, probably so. The tackler could equally easily have swung the player around still upright to accomplish the same result, I think. Or he could've started like the suplex, but then gone down himself on his own back, pulling the runner down on top of him, instead of slinging him over himself. It seems more difficult, for no tactical advantage, to use the suplex move.

ajmc Tue Nov 06, 2018 01:16pm

Perhaps, but NFHS does describe "FLAGRANT" (2-16-2-c) as, "a foul so severe or extreme that it places an opponent in danger of serious injury......".

Ignored "flagrant" behavior has a nasty habit of encouraging retaliation.


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