Legal tackle or not?

[voiceoflg]

I don't have the ability to edit, so I'll have to link the whole highlight reel. The tackle in question is 2:33 in. Is it a legal tackle?

Legal or not?

[InsideTheStripe]

While it certainly borders on unnecessary roughness, I not sure I'd throw it under normal circumstances.

I've cut it and added it to this post to make it easier for others to see.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by voiceoflg

I don't have the ability to edit, so I'll have to link the whole highlight reel. The tackle in question is 2:33 in. Is it a legal tackle?

Legal or not?

Regardless, it should've been an incomplete pass.

[JRutledge]

I see nothing wrong with this tackle. Just because he was pulled out of bounds there is nothing illegal automatically about someone landing on their head.

Peace

[InsideTheStripe]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I see nothing wrong with this tackle. Just because he was pulled out of bounds there is nothing illegal automatically about someone landing on their head.

While I agree with this statement, I'm still not sure about this play. I didn't see a player that just happened to land on his head as the result of a tackle. I see a player picked up and DRIVEN head first into the ground. Was it necessary to drive him into the ground?

Like I previously said, I think I let it go if I see it live. However, I'd probably spend some time wondering if it were a good no-call.

[bigjohn]

Why is the it punching it back? It is an incomplete forward pass and there should be all kinds of whistles! That is poor officiating IMHO

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by InsideTheStripe

While I agree with this statement, I'm still not sure about this play. I didn't see a player that just happened to land on his head as the result of a tackle. I see a player picked up and DRIVEN head first into the ground. Was it necessary to drive him into the ground?

Like I previously said, I think I let it go if I see it live. However, I'd probably spend some time wondering if it were a good no-call.

He is trying to make the tackle. The runner is trying to get away. It was not like the player was not fighting for yardage. If this player does not land on this head, we are not even talking about this. Football is a violent sport and everything took place in-bounds while the ball was considered live (whether that should have been is another issue). It is not about what is necessary; it is about what was done. The play was not over when he threw the ball carrier to the ground.

Peace

[Welpe]

Also, anybody have roughing the passer here? I'm leaning towards not but I'm not really sure.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Also, anybody have roughing the passer here? I'm leaning towards not but I'm not really sure.

It cannot be roughing the passer on a ruled backward pass.

Peace

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It cannot be roughing the passer on a ruled backward pass.

Peace

True. OK, say it was ruled forward. RTP?

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Regardless, it wasn't exactly a good ruling.

Yeah, but the main reason that guy posts is to rip officials.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Welpe

True. OK, say it was ruled forward. RTP?

No I would not have RTP. He was hit almost immediately after the pass was released. At least that is my opinion.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by LDUB

Yeah, but the main reason that guy posts is to rip officials.

I know. To be fair, I posted that little tidbit first.

As ruled, I have nothing.

[bigjohn]

Most officials I know would flag that as UR. Even after blowing the forward pass call.

[mbyron]

Most officials I know would NOT flag that. The tackler flipped the runner over, but he did not have the "top-down" leverage required to drive him head-first into the ground. The tackler ended underneath the runner.