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Old Mon Sep 04, 2017, 06:21pm
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Illegal Motion or legal reset?

Wide out is lined up as a back and goes in motion. Line is down and set. Fullback for some reason comes out of his stance, realizes he has started early and resets himself. Wide out continues in motion until QB snaps the ball and heads up field. Wide out did not reset himself.

I flagged the play. Referee told me to wave it off because the Fullback had reset himself and remained set for one second before the snap. Comment please.
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Old Mon Sep 04, 2017, 06:43pm
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Wide out is lined up as a back and goes in motion. Line is down and set. Fullback for some reason comes out of his stance, realizes he has started early and resets himself. Wide out continues in motion until QB snaps the ball and heads up field. Wide out did not reset himself.

I flagged the play. Referee told me to wave it off because the Fullback had reset himself and remained set for one second before the snap. Comment please.
No. All players must set for one second.

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Old Mon Sep 04, 2017, 07:12pm
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Wide out is lined up as a back and goes in motion. Line is down and set. Fullback for some reason comes out of his stance, realizes he has started early and resets himself. Wide out continues in motion until QB snaps the ball and heads up field. Wide out did not reset himself.

I flagged the play. Referee told me to wave it off because the Fullback had reset himself and remained set for one second before the snap. Comment please.
Once the FB moved, the motion became a shift, which means all moving players must come set for one second prior to the snap. The R shouldn't have waived this illegal shift.
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Old Mon Sep 04, 2017, 07:45pm
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Just another referee who thinks it's OK to play dictator on the field.

You were right.

(If the RB mistimed the snap, the R should've flagged a FST and been done with it.)
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Old Mon Sep 04, 2017, 09:08pm
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Just another referee who thinks it's OK to play dictator on the field.

You were right.

(If the RB mistimed the snap, the R should've flagged a FST and been done with it.)
Which I would have done. Shut it down.

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Old Tue Sep 05, 2017, 09:13pm
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Sounds like it was a false start....but at least am illegal shift

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Old Wed Sep 20, 2017, 02:06am
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Do not kill this play as it is just an illegal shift (under NCAA rules)
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Old Wed Sep 20, 2017, 07:29am
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A mistimed snap is always going to be a FST. Shut it down.


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Old Wed Sep 20, 2017, 03:01pm
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A mistimed snap is always going to be a FST. Shut it down.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro
Absolutely agree, in NFHS shut it down as a FST.
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Old Wed Sep 20, 2017, 05:28pm
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Do not kill this play as it is just an illegal shift (under NCAA rules)
I'm killing this under NCAA rules, too. A mistimed snap is an FST regardless of code.
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