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Old Sun Sep 28, 2003, 10:59pm
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New play posted on the web. It is a very interesting one with a close catch on the sideline. Look at the play and see if you think it was an interception.

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Old Mon Sep 29, 2003, 12:22am
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The player is not OOB when he touches the ball, he controls it, one foot touches inbounds, before falling OOB. Interception, in NF at least. Have no idea about NCAA.
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Old Mon Sep 29, 2003, 02:08am
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Terrible picture. Couldn't see ball, couldn't see sideline.

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Old Mon Sep 29, 2003, 06:13am
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Looks good to me. While the defender did step OOB, he was in the air when he first touched the ball. One foot was down while he had control. Then he lands OOB on his back still in control.
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Old Mon Sep 29, 2003, 07:09am
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Great play - INT

The covering officials appear to have a real good look at it. Not sure what they ruled though.
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Old Mon Sep 29, 2003, 09:51am
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Not sure why there's a question. INT all the way. What's the case for a non-catch call?
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Old Mon Sep 29, 2003, 09:55am
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I agree, INT...I believe the point of the video is that the defender stepped OOB...which looks illegal, but as we know only A and K are not allowed to come back in from OOB...
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Old Mon Sep 29, 2003, 11:46am
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Oh, they can come back in, but...
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Old Mon Sep 29, 2003, 12:09pm
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Originally posted by davidfv1
New play posted on the web. It is a very interesting one with a close catch on the sideline. Look at the play and see if you think it was an interception.

http://mysite.verizon.net/res0kkni/footballvideo/


Thanks for all those who participated in the web site and I hope that your season is going great.

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Funny how some see a play and others see it different. I’m ruling incomplete on this. It looks to me the player was still gaining possession when he hit ground OOB. Last spring I had the benefit of sitting through an afternoon of games films with some D-1 NCAA and NFL guys. Surprisingly (to me at least) they’d almost always rule incomplete on catches just like this one. The NCAA guys would usually go with the “when unsure”, the NFL “see a football related move”. And watch the wing official moving toward the OOB’s spot. It looks like he’s starting to signal incomplete rather then time out.

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Old Mon Sep 29, 2003, 12:12pm
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What about establishing yourself in the field of play prior to touching the ball? It looks to me like the player has touched the ball after last being in contact with the out bounds portion of the field. Does this not have an impact on the play?
Under NF rules there is no such thing as "establishing" one's self back in bounds. When you are no longer touching the ground OOB or anything else that is OOB, you are no longer OOB.
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Old Mon Sep 29, 2003, 12:22pm
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SDReg - what PSU says is true in NF, NCAA, or NFL. Basketball's interpretation of this is what has skued the perception of the general public. In football, all that matters is where you land.
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Old Mon Sep 29, 2003, 12:36pm
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Interception, looks like he has control of it before he touches out of bounds.
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Old Mon Sep 29, 2003, 12:54pm
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Just what was the Line judge or the Field judge ruling on the play? (I don't care what the colorful announcers said either).
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Old Mon Sep 29, 2003, 01:35pm
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Too much Sunday for you.

In NCAA (and NF, I believe), K could be standing in the endzone with his arms outstretched out of the EZ, and stop the ball from entering the EZ - the ball is spotted where the BALL is when it's touched. Where the player is is not relevant.

(Yes - NFL has a completely different bunch of rules regarding the endzone that differ from their rules regarding the sideline.)
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Old Mon Sep 29, 2003, 01:54pm
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looks like an INT to me. Although grainy picture may be hiding something.
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