Illegal pick play?

[bigjohn]

Illegal Contact and Pass Interference
ARTICLE 8. a. During a down in which a legal forward pass crosses the
neutral zone, illegal contact by Team A and Team B players is prohibited
from the time the ball is snapped until it is touched by any player or an
official (A.R. 7-3-8-II).
b. Offensive pass interference by a Team A player beyond the neutral zone
during a legal forward pass play in which a forward pass crosses the
neutral zone is contact that interferes with a Team B eligible player. It
is the responsibility of the offensive player to avoid the opponents

[JRutledge]

You can post it in big letters all you like. You would never survive at the college level if that is what you would call.

BTW, what "category" do you put this in? If you do not know what I am talking about, then you do not anything about this application of the rule?

Peace

[bigjohn]

There are four classifications of OPI: 1) blocking downfield (or pick plays), 2) shoving or pushing off, 3) driving through a defender, and 4) the receiver turning into a defender.


http://www.nkoafootball.org/smembers...g/hardcall.doc


I think it is pretty obvious the Offense initiated the contact. That is my opinion.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

There are four classifications of OPI: 1) blocking downfield (or pick plays), 2) shoving or pushing off, 3) driving through a defender, and 4) the receiver turning into a defender.


http://www.nkoafootball.org/smembers...g/hardcall.doc


I think it is pretty obvious the Offense initiated the contact. That is my opinion.

You're entitled to be wrong.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

There are four classifications of OPI: 1) blocking downfield (or pick plays), 2) shoving or pushing off, 3) driving through a defender, and 4) the receiver turning into a defender.


http://www.nkoafootball.org/smembers...g/hardcall.doc

And he did none of those.

Offensive can run routes. They run routes by running from one position to another. If the defense goes with them, that is no them. There was no separation on the play or even any major push from the spot. The defender tried to take away the inside move (which many are taught to do) and never tried to go outside with the other receiver. Which this was likely a play designed by film study and figured the outside guy would bite on the play. He did and as an official, I need either separation or material contact to make that call, especially in this part of the field (notice I did not say game). The first play at the goal line was closer, but even then, the defender went with that guy as well. If he pushes off and gets separation, then maybe you have a flag. But that is very marginal. It was well executed and why there was no foul called either time if you ask me.

Peace

[bigjohn]

http://www.sbnation.com/2017/1/9/142...terference-rub

Pretty sketchy if you ask me. I see a defender backing up gets hit on outside number and gets driven off the ball.

Everyone wanted Clemson to win, Hell I wanted Clemson to win. I thought it was OPI though. And Bama deserves to lose because they let it happen twice!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

http://www.sbnation.com/2017/1/9/142...terference-rub

Pretty sketchy if you ask me. I see a defender backing up gets hit on outside number and gets driven off the ball.

Everyone wanted Clemson to win, Hell I wanted Clemson to win. I thought it was OPI though. And Bama deserves to lose because they let it happen twice!

Honestly, if you have not done it, then really your opinion is really what it is, just an opinion. It does not make it a good one or even right.

I told you some time ago, put in the stripes and come talk to me.

Peace

[Legacy Zebra]

Maybe this will put the argument to bed. Redding has already weighed in and agreed that it a good no call since the defender initiated contact.

https://twitter.com/ralphDrussoAP/st...82978029928453

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

the receiver turning into a defender.

I puzzled over that one until I realized it meant, "the receiver turning in to a defender".