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mu4scott · #1 (**permalink**) Tue Aug 09, 2016, 02:54pm

The official in the jacket was telling the asst. coach to get back where he belongs.

As an alternate offical I don't think that's his job to interact with coaches in that capacity.

JRutledge · #2 (**permalink**) Tue Aug 09, 2016, 04:19pm

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Originally Posted by mu4scott

The official in the jacket was telling the asst. coach to get back where he belongs.

As an alternate offical I don't think that's his job to interact with coaches in that capacity.

The coach started the entire confrontation by telling him what he should do in relationship with the other coach. If the coach stays in his lane this never starts in the first place.

Peace

mu4scott · #3 (**permalink**) Wed Aug 10, 2016, 10:09am

We can agree to disagree. I think if the alternate official doesn't overstep his role then the situation wouldn't have happened.

JRutledge · #4 (**permalink**) Wed Aug 10, 2016, 10:52am

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We can agree to disagree. I think if the alternate official doesn't overstep his role then the situation wouldn't have happened.

I do not even know what we are agreeing to disagree for. We saw part of the video and a coach curing at a guy.

Also I do not know what levels you work or understand, but that person if an alternate (we still do not know) has very direct responsibilities and I saw not a single thing that would suggest that what he was doing before the coach went off he was outside of his role.

Peace

mu4scott · #5 (**permalink**) Wed Aug 10, 2016, 12:14pm

Let's say that he is an alternate official.

At the collegiate level part of his responsibilites is interacting with coaches and enforcing sideline infractions? I work HS so I'm asking this because I do not know.

JRutledge · #6 (**permalink**) Wed Aug 10, 2016, 01:33pm

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Originally Posted by mu4scott

Let's say that he is an alternate official.

At the collegiate level part of his responsibilites is interacting with coaches and enforcing sideline infractions? I work HS so I'm asking this because I do not know.

Part of his responsibility is to interact with the crew on certain situations and sometimes deal with the coaches for specific communication as well. He was confronted by the coach and I see nothing wrong with him telling him what his job is there to do, which he did. Then the coach got all froggy and tried to tell him what he has to let the crew do, which first of all is not his job to tell anyone what they can or cannot do associated with the crew.

Also we was not enforcing a rule, he was interacting with the crew. That is likely why he is there and probably is charting plays, which kind of requires you to interact with the crew. And he had a clipboard in his hand which tells me he was charting something. The coach was completely out of line. But the "official" allowed himself to get baited into that confrontation as well.

Peace

InsideTheStripe · #7 (**permalink**) Sat Aug 13, 2016, 12:06am

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Part of his responsibility is to interact with the crew on certain situations and sometimes deal with the coaches for specific communication as well. He was confronted by the coach and I see nothing wrong with him telling him what his job is there to do, which he did. Then the coach got all froggy and tried to tell him what he has to let the crew do, which first of all is not his job to tell anyone what they can or cannot do associated with the crew.

Also we was not enforcing a rule, he was interacting with the crew. That is likely why he is there and probably is charting plays, which kind of requires you to interact with the crew. And he had a clipboard in his hand which tells me he was charting something. The coach was completely out of line. But the "official" allowed himself to get baited into that confrontation as well.

Peace

I'm having a hard time seeing where you're coming from here, Jeff.

The first video is pretty damn clear. alternate official (AO)/penalty charter (PC) was inserting himself as sideline management or a a get back coach. If I were the L, I'd have been telling the AO/PC to STFU and let me do my job long before it got to that. The fact that the coach called him out for not being on the same page as the L and things quickly escalated from there doesn't excuse the behavior or the AO/PC. He escalated the situation. He being the first to make it personal verbally. He being the one to make the first physical contact. He being the one to throw the first punch. He being the one to throw his clipboard at the coach.

If I'm a coordinator of officials in a NCAA conference or a HS administrator, he doesn't work again.