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Old Tue Aug 09, 2016, 10:02am
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My bad for not giving more info...

As was said previously this was a juco game in Missississippi. Coach served a two game suspension and not sure what happened to the official.

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The guy in the black jacket probably was an official and needed to show more restraint overall considering his role in the situation. But just because you run up on someone, they might not be professional to you and the coach was out of line telling him anything about what he was doing or saying to the official.
IMO the official in the black jacket had no business telling the coach to backup/get off the field. He's showing up his line judge who was right there. Then to get in a verbal fight with the coach which results in a physical altercation is something that should result in immediate termination.
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Old Tue Aug 09, 2016, 10:14am
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Article on the aftermath...

EMCC’s Stephens suspended two games | Sports | meridianstar.com
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Old Tue Aug 09, 2016, 10:19am
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IMO the official in the black jacket had no business telling the coach to backup/get off the field. He's showing up his line judge who was right there. Then to get in a verbal fight with the coach which results in a physical altercation is something that should result in immediate termination.
I've no idea what he told the coach. Any problems he had as an ancillary official with team personnel, he should have addressed with the wing official he was shadowing. I imagine if he was an actual official at that level, he no longer is. If he was a helper, I'm betting he no longer helps.

I was glad to read that the coach accepted responsibility, that's rare these days.
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Old Tue Aug 09, 2016, 11:53am
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Unless I hear that was the result, I am not convinced that is what happened to that "official." Seen many things in my years that you would think ends the opportunities of someone only to have them bounce back. I would never recommend this being done by anyone, but I would not be surprised if he works in the future. What I am sure is the case, there is a better procedure or standard of what those "officials" are to do on the sideline and probably something from the school or conference on what their role actually is and how the officials and coaches will interact in the future.

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Old Tue Aug 09, 2016, 12:04pm
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IMO the official in the black jacket had no business telling the coach to backup/get off the field. He's showing up his line judge who was right there. Then to get in a verbal fight with the coach which results in a physical altercation is something that should result in immediate termination.
Well that depends on the role of that person and what they are there to do as a part of the crew. When the bigger levels have an alternate, they are often interacting with coaches and sometimes are the people that give rules and interpretations to the coach on that sideline. Now that might be what he was asked to do on some level. I do not know and no one here seems to know a lot about this situation outside of this video. And it appeared the coach got upset with the guy in the jacket when he was talking to the official. That is not the coach's right to tell me or anyone how to interact with someone when I am not directly interfering with the play on the field. He needed to stay in his lane. And again a lot is not known as we do not know the procedures for this official that were set in place before they got into a fight.

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Old Tue Aug 09, 2016, 02:54pm
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The official in the jacket was telling the asst. coach to get back where he belongs.

As an alternate offical I don't think that's his job to interact with coaches in that capacity.
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Old Tue Aug 09, 2016, 04:19pm
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The official in the jacket was telling the asst. coach to get back where he belongs.

As an alternate offical I don't think that's his job to interact with coaches in that capacity.
The coach started the entire confrontation by telling him what he should do in relationship with the other coach. If the coach stays in his lane this never starts in the first place.

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Old Wed Aug 10, 2016, 10:09am
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We can agree to disagree. I think if the alternate official doesn't overstep his role then the situation wouldn't have happened.
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Old Wed Aug 10, 2016, 10:52am
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We can agree to disagree. I think if the alternate official doesn't overstep his role then the situation wouldn't have happened.
I do not even know what we are agreeing to disagree for. We saw part of the video and a coach curing at a guy.

Also I do not know what levels you work or understand, but that person if an alternate (we still do not know) has very direct responsibilities and I saw not a single thing that would suggest that what he was doing before the coach went off he was outside of his role.

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Old Wed Aug 10, 2016, 12:14pm
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Let's say that he is an alternate official.

At the collegiate level part of his responsibilites is interacting with coaches and enforcing sideline infractions? I work HS so I'm asking this because I do not know.
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