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Two Block/Charge Plays (Video)
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Making Every Effort to Be in the Right Place at the Right Time, Looking at the Right Thing to Make the Right Call Last edited by APG; Mon Aug 03, 2015 at 01:09pm. Reason: embed |
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First instinct in both cases..."block". Both defenders appeared to move into ball handlers...no LGP in ether case. Now I'll go back and rewind it a few times and see if I feel any different.
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Charge and Charge!
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I have both plays as PC fouls. In #1 the BH/D never gets head and shoulders past the defender, meaning the onus is on the BH/D to avoid contact. Same deal for #2, assuming there was contact.
In #2 I'm assuming there was a turnover and the new L got stuck but he still needed to bust it to get to the end line. It appears he made up his mind - or his legs made up his mind for him - that he wasn't going to get to the end line in time about two steps over the division line. Of course, his physical condition looks much better than that of the new T. I'm sure it sounds like I'm trying to hate but as a guy who shed 45 lbs. since the start of 2013 I'm speaking from experience. It's hard officiating 17-year-old when you're carrying too much baggage.
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charge, charge.
in each instance i ask myself what did the defense do wrong? nothing. Both the contacts were straight through the chest and neither involved a player going airborne so looked like defense got to the spot first and had lgp.
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PC and PC.
Although in the second clip, I'm not certain, becuase of the camera angle, how much contact there was. If there was some embellishment, I can see a "play-on" no-call.
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First one looks like a block. The defender is coming towards the ball handler at the time of contact.
The second one looks like a PC mostly, but I cannot tell if the defender is going forward to the ball handler or moving sideways. But it appears to be PC for the most part. Peace
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Play 1 is a bad angle, but that looks like a block to me, no LGP as the defender was still sliding into offensive player at contact.
Play 2 looks like a PC, assuming there was sufficient contact. |
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Regardless of whether you rule block or PC, what does "sliding into" mean?
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Peace
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Play 1: Charge
Play 2: Charge Play 1 is a tough play cuz it's pretty high for the Lead to call (who probably has the best idea of the defenders LGP), so Trail has to get it. I really like how Trail closed down so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Play 2 is tough to see from our angle how much the offensive player goes through the defender. I could see a no-call but maybe the offensive player uses his left arm there where we can't see. Wish the Lead could have made it to the endline to accept the play but I'm actually more concerned with Trail's extra baggage. |
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