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Old Mon Jul 06, 2015, 09:04am
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He will probably face a significant fine
WNBA officials get fined for missing calls?? Ok gotta make sure to avoid working that league.
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Old Mon Jul 06, 2015, 09:18am
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WNBA officials get fined for missing calls?? Ok gotta make sure to avoid working that league.
In the NBA, you get fined if you kick a rule, and that includes procedural errors. I would imagine the WNBA has a similar process for its officials in the CBA with the union.

The world of professional officiating is a lot different than the world of independently contracted officiating.
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Old Mon Jul 06, 2015, 09:24am
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In the NBA, you get fined if you kick a rule, and that includes procedural errors. I would imagine the WNBA has a similar process for its officials in the CBA with the union.

The world of professional officiating is a lot different than the world of independently contracted officiating.
Do you have a source?
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Old Mon Jul 06, 2015, 10:29am
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Do you have a source?
Donnie Vaden, Zach Zarba, and Bob Delaney are 3 I've heard it from this year.

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Old Mon Jul 06, 2015, 12:59pm
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Donnie Vaden, Zach Zarba, and Bob Delaney are 3 I've heard it from this year.

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Can confirm, heard the same thing as BNR.

Also, WNBA rules do not allow the officials to go to the replay to decide if a shot went in or not.
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Old Mon Jul 06, 2015, 01:49pm
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How much do they get fined?
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Old Tue Jul 07, 2015, 06:43am
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How much do they get fined?
I wasn't given a chart.
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Old Mon Jul 06, 2015, 01:56pm
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Have heard the same thing...

Also, WNBA rules do not allow the officials to go to the replay to decide if a shot went in or not.
Interesting. Maybe this episode will cause the rules committee to reconsider that.

In that case, if you're not sure, swallow your pride and ask the table for help. This is why it's good to introduce yourself to table personnel before the game, and make them feel empowered to help. You never know when you might need them to help bail you out. On a shot, on identifying the fouler or shooter, etc.
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Old Mon Jul 06, 2015, 11:39pm
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More than ten years ago was the last time that I chatted with an NBA official about the fines for "kicking" a rule. The fine was $1,000.

Other comments on this situation: the foul call should have been a charge, if the calling official hadn't been exaggerating his signals so much perhaps he would have seen the ball not enter the basket, perhaps if the NBA/WNBA shifted the focus of its hiring process for officials from physical look to mental acumen more calls would be proper and fewer of these errors would occur.
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Old Wed Jul 08, 2015, 04:53pm
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Can confirm, heard the same thing as BNR.

Also, WNBA rules do not allow the officials to go to the replay to decide if a shot went in or not.
...otherwise I'm sure it wouldn't have happened.

But as a teaching moment, we can also ask the table officials and - worst-case scenario - surreptitiously ask the players if he ball went in. It's not by the book but you try to do anything you need to do to get it right.
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