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Old Sun Jul 05, 2015, 12:08pm
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WNBA Follies ...
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WNBA Refs Award Made Basket For Shot That Clearly Did Not Enter Basket
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Old Sun Jul 05, 2015, 12:42pm
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Wow. Too late to correct in high school.

Not sure about other rule sets, but apparently WNBA is similar to NFHS on this one.
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Old Sun Jul 05, 2015, 02:21pm
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Very Embarrassing Situation ...
Three, top notch, professional, basketball, officials, and nobody saw the ball not go in?

I shouldn't be too hard on these guys. A few years ago, in two person game, as the trail, I had a foul from behind against a player in the act of shooting, in the lane. My partner, the lead, also had a whistle a split second after mine, and the foul resulted in crash, and a lot of bodies lying in the lane area. In the time it took me to figure out who was going to report the foul, (my partner), and if anybody was seriously hurt on the floor (they were not), I failed to observe if the ball went in the hoop, as did my partner. We had to ask the crew at the table if the ball went in (it did).
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Old Sun Jul 05, 2015, 02:27pm
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As an official, this doesn't surprise me a bit. Usually we have something more important to watch than the ball.
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Old Sun Jul 05, 2015, 03:18pm
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Ball Watching Is A No No (Sometimes) ...
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Usually we have something more important to watch than the ball.
Let's not overstate this, and confuse rookie officials. We do have to watch for basket interference, goaltending, the ball going out of bounds, and whether, or not, the ball goes in the basket. Watching the ball may not be, better yet, is not, the most important thing that we look for, but it should be somewhere on the list, even if it's on the bottom of the list. In my embarrassing example above, I had two higher priorities than watching the ball, but at least we knew that nobody saw the ball go in the basket, or not go in the basket, so we sought help (the table) to get it right.
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Old Mon Jul 06, 2015, 12:46am
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I know the WNBA has been experimenting with ways to make their game more exciting but I think this is going a little overboard.
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Old Mon Jul 06, 2015, 02:55am
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We must keep in mind that a partner told the calling official that the ball went in the basket. I put this mostly on one person on the crew more than anyone.

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Old Mon Jul 06, 2015, 03:43am
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We must keep in mind that a partner told the calling official that the ball went in the basket. I put this mostly on one person on the crew more than anyone.
He did stop and ask the T before counting the goal.
The Trail is official #26.
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He did stop and ask the T before counting the goal.
The Trail is official #26.
Yup. T provided information, which leaves him solely responsible for the error. He will probably face a significant fine, or maybe even a brief suspension. Not sure why/if he thought he was sure. If he wasn't, all he had to do was say, "Dude, I'm not sure; let's check the monitor."

Unfortunate situation. But a teachable moment for all sides. For the officials, it's don't be in a rush, and if you're not sure, say so. For the Atlanta coaches, especially the assistants, you have to recognize this so you can speak up and get a timeout to address the CE. They missed their window of opportunity.
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He will probably face a significant fine
WNBA officials get fined for missing calls?? Ok gotta make sure to avoid working that league.
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Old Mon Jul 06, 2015, 09:18am
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WNBA officials get fined for missing calls?? Ok gotta make sure to avoid working that league.
In the NBA, you get fined if you kick a rule, and that includes procedural errors. I would imagine the WNBA has a similar process for its officials in the CBA with the union.

The world of professional officiating is a lot different than the world of independently contracted officiating.
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In the NBA, you get fined if you kick a rule, and that includes procedural errors. I would imagine the WNBA has a similar process for its officials in the CBA with the union.

The world of professional officiating is a lot different than the world of independently contracted officiating.
Do you have a source?
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Old Mon Jul 06, 2015, 10:22am
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He did stop and ask the T before counting the goal.
The Trail is official #26.
It looks like the T went to him, but either way he was given erroneous information. The L had bodies on the floor and his attention was there.

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Do you have a source?
Donnie Vaden, Zach Zarba, and Bob Delaney are 3 I've heard it from this year.

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Old Mon Jul 06, 2015, 12:59pm
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Donnie Vaden, Zach Zarba, and Bob Delaney are 3 I've heard it from this year.

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Can confirm, heard the same thing as BNR.

Also, WNBA rules do not allow the officials to go to the replay to decide if a shot went in or not.
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