put ball in play across the lane?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Maybe you need to get out of the corner sometime.

I am a firm believer in the "When In Rome ..." principle. If I ever officiate in another area, I will be prepared to makes changes in my mechanics, and those that move here should expect to make changes in their mechanics. It's not a matter of right, or wrong, it's just "different".

At camp this weekend a D1 guy told me it's ok to do this in the backcourt. I've never seen it done in a D1 game on TV so take that for what it's worth.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I can say when I watch NCAA or lower level college games, I cannot recall seeing it done. Maybe it is those in your areas that want to do it and others that choose not to. Just like any mechanic that involves people all over the country, officials do not all do things with the same level of emphasis.

Peace

It's done all the time in NCAAW / NAIAW / JuCoW games in our area, Jeff. Now, sometimes, at that level, newer officials don't know they can do that, so they go across and force the other officials to adjust. At least until we can talk to them.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Rich

I wish we could fine you every time you use the phrase "my little corner of Connecticut."

He'd be so poor he couldn't afford a belt or a slide rule

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

It's done all the time in NCAAW / NAIAW / JuCoW games in our area, Jeff. Now, sometimes, at that level, newer officials don't know they can do that, so they go across and force the other officials to adjust. At least until we can talk to them.

You got that right. The first time in a game an official forces his/her partners to switch when the play is going long is usually the last.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

It's done all the time in NCAAW / NAIAW / JuCoW games in our area, Jeff. Now, sometimes, at that level, newer officials don't know they can do that, so they go across and force the other officials to adjust. At least until we can talk to them.

I went to a college game to watch a family friend play on her senior day and watched an entire game. I do not recall them doing this once, but then again I probably was not paying that close attention.

I will admit I rarely watch a lot of the games in front of me anymore when I work those levels you mentioned in our area.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I am a firm believer in the "When In Rome ..." principle. If I ever officiate in another area, I will be prepared to makes changes in my mechanics, and those that move here should expect to make changes in their mechanics. It's not a matter of right, or wrong, it's just "different".

Is it sort of how things in the Chicago area are sometimes different?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Is it sort of how things in the Chicago area are sometimes different?

Actually the very same things we do in Chicago are taught all across Illinois. Sorry, we are a state organization that teaches officials across the state the same basic things. We are not just a local association that is affiliated with some other organization that puts out information about what officials should or should not do mechanically.

This state and the clinicians who have to be registered and picked to do their jobs are instructed to teach the very same basic things across the state. So things like where you put the ball in play and who puts the ball in play is the same across the state. But just like anything in life with people of all kinds of skill and experience levels, people do many variations of mechanics or have different levels of understanding those mechanics just like we discuss here every day when it comes to coverages, who should make the call, double whistles, back court violation coverage, competitive match-ups and philosophy on when to blow the whistle and not when to blow the whistle.

I also can speak to this personally as I have worked in parts of Central Illinois and even parts of Southern Illinois as well as working the the Chicago land area which we have officials that do the exact same things without much confusion.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Actually...

Peace

[APG]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

You got that right. The first time in a game an official forces his/her partners to switch when the play is going long is usually the last.

I have definitely been guilty of this!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I do not disagree with this, as I am not obsessed over what is written in a book. That is a very small part of what we do as officials.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

It's because I can't speak for the entire state of Connecticut. Even though Connecticut is 100% IAABO, each of the local boards has their own way of doing things.

It's kind of like we have six little fiefdoms. We're all IAABO, and there is a state board, but each of the six local boards may do things a little differently than the other five local boards. That's why, here on the Forum, I always try to separate myself from the rest of the State of Connecticut. Since I gave up coaching middle school basketball ten years ago, I really don't know what's going on in the other five local boards, I never watch their officials work games, and I seldom have a chance to talk to officials from other parts of Connecticut.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

You got that right. The first time in a game an official forces his/her partners to switch when the play is going long is usually the last.

For the sake of . . . what? Six or seven steps???
Is that really what all this is about?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do not disagree with this, as I am not obsessed over what is written in a book. That is a very small part of what we do as officials.

Peace

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Freddy

For the sake of . . . what? Six or seven steps???
Is that really what all this is about?

It's six or seven steps for the new T. For the C and the new L it can be a 3/4-court change. Here's the diagram again (just because I can...)



If the new T goes to the other side of the lane that sends the C to the opposite FT line - at least - and forces the official who would have been the new L to move into the frontcourt. This assumes there's pressure on the throw-in. If there's no pressure, it forces the C to go 70 feet to become the new L. Do that a few times to the same person and see if they like you at the end of the night.