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Old Mon Jun 08, 2015, 08:18pm
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If it is just coaches not granting a timeout, that is a great change. Great change I tell you. Tired of looking to coaches for something they never did for years without much problem.

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As APG subtly pointed out, coaches will not be able to call live ball timeouts. The ball is dead after a made basket or free throw, so a coach can still call timeout here (and we better not miss it!).

But in general, I love the rule change. I shouldn't get accused of ignorance in a loud gym when I'm trying to focus on a play 60 feet from a coach who I couldn't hear even if he had a bull horn. Want a live ball timeout? Instill in your players your philosophy for when the appropriate time to call one is. Or get one of your player's attention to bring the request to my attention. Because I'm busy, d@mn it!
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Old Mon Jun 08, 2015, 10:19pm
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NCAA changes shot clock to 30 seconds, makes other changes to game | NCAA.com


• Reducing the amount of time allotted to replace a disqualified player from 20 to 15 seconds.

Coaches will still milk it until we start issuing some T's. Now that Class B's are just 1 shot, we need to enforce it early in the season.

• Allowing a total of only 10 seconds to advance the ball to the front court (with a few exceptions).

Wish they would have listed the exceptions.
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Old Mon Jun 08, 2015, 11:56pm
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As APG subtly pointed out, coaches will not be able to call live ball timeouts. The ball is dead after a made basket or free throw, so a coach can still call timeout here (and we better not miss it!).

But in general, I love the rule change. I shouldn't get accused of ignorance in a loud gym when I'm trying to focus on a play 60 feet from a coach who I couldn't hear even if he had a bull horn. Want a live ball timeout? Instill in your players your philosophy for when the appropriate time to call one is. Or get one of your player's attention to bring the request to my attention. Because I'm busy, d@mn it!
I realize what live ball means. I was wondering if they were using the term "live ball" to mean when the ball is actually only live or were there other exceptions to the rule. And coaches for years used to do just fine requesting timeouts through their players. Not sure why this would be a problem moving forward. It is probably the best rule change IMO. The rest of the other stuff is window dressing.

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I realize what live ball means. I was wondering if they were using the term "live ball" to mean when the ball is actually only live or were there other exceptions to the rule. And coaches for years used to do just fine requesting timeouts through their players. Not sure why this would be a problem moving forward. It is probably the best rule change IMO. The rest of the other stuff is window dressing.

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You may be right...that it could mean something a bit different than the technical meaning of live ball. As so many non-officials use the term, it often includes the time between a made basket and a throwin. Hopefully, it will actually be that....that the coach can only be granted a timeout when the ball is dead AND the clock is stopped (and not during the interval when it is stopped in the final minute after a made bucket).
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Old Tue Jun 09, 2015, 03:28am
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You may be right...that it could mean something a bit different than the technical meaning of live ball. As so many non-officials use the term, it often includes the time between a made basket and a throwin. Hopefully, it will actually be that....that the coach can only be granted a timeout when the ball is dead AND the clock is stopped (and not during the interval when it is stopped in the final minute after a made bucket).
Hearing from the NCAA-W SRE, who was privy to the discussions on the men's side, it was stated that coaches will be able to ask for a TO during any dead ball...to include immediately after a made basket.
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Old Thu Jun 11, 2015, 07:39am
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So for 10-second BC count, it will reset except for these 3 situations:
  1. OOB on defense
  2. TF on offense
  3. Held ball where offense retains possession
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I don't know what is the big deal about dunking in pregame. I work FIBA rules where dunking is allowed in pregame. In my 15 years, I have yet to see a broken backboard or an injury related to this. Not to say that it can't happen. But if broken backboards and injuries while dunking are such a priority, let's prohbit dunking during the game as well.
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Old Thu Jun 11, 2015, 08:11am
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I don't know what is the big deal about dunking in pregame. I work FIBA rules where dunking is allowed in pregame. In my 15 years, I have yet to see a broken backboard or an injury related to this. Not to say that it can't happen. But if broken backboards and injuries while dunking are such a priority, let's prohbit dunking during the game as well.
I have seen baskets/stanchions knocked askew causing delays in starting the game.
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Old Thu Jun 11, 2015, 04:29pm
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In my 15 years, I have yet to see a broken backboard ...
It's been thirty-five years for me, but I'm sure that I will remember the first time that I have to wait two hours to start a game, or, maybe, worse, I have to drive an hour back home after a game is postponed.
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Old Sat Jun 13, 2015, 07:37pm
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I don't know what is the big deal about dunking in pregame. I work FIBA rules where dunking is allowed in pregame. In my 15 years, I have yet to see a broken backboard or an injury related to this. Not to say that it can't happen. But if broken backboards and injuries while dunking are such a priority, let's prohbit dunking during the game as well.
I saw a college game where a really big Wake dude destroyed the backboard early - before he wasn't allowed to dunk. Game was about 20 minutes late. (I suspect TV $ was pissed.)
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