T to C Exchange Indication

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Talk about the new stuff, the changes, skip the stuff that has been around for years. If you're working with a relative rookie, expand it a bit to cover some more basic stuff. But two/three veterans should be talking about stuff more than basic mechanics.

2-3 veteran refs should already know the "new stuff" by the time the season starts.

I'd rather talk about floor mechanics and coverage areas, especially as they relate to plays that I or my partners have seen missed in our games and other people's games.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

2-3 veteran refs should already know the "new stuff" by the time the season starts.

I'd rather talk about floor mechanics and coverage areas, especially as they relate to plays that I or my partners have seen missed in our games and other people's games.

If I have to constantly talk about new stuff, we have issues. The only way I might talk about something new is how we might have to change what we do if a new rule is introduced. The best example I can come up with is the NCAA situation when the 10 second visible count was eliminated and any official could theoretically call a 10 second violation. I hardly ever even discussed the freedom of movement rules in pre-games.

Peace

[johnny d]

Mechanics are rarely talked about in any of the college pre games I have been involved in. At that level, I think most people are pretty confident where there partners are going to be and the expectations. Usually, me and most of the people I work with at that level are more concerned about matchups, identifying the *******s on each team, types of offense and defense to expect from each team. Maybe in the first few weeks we cover anything new, including rules or mechanics, but that doesn't continue after the first few weeks of the season. If one of the guys still does a lot of high school games, we might spend a few minutes reviewing the differences, both rules and mechanics, between hs and college, but that is really the only time I have ever participated in a pregame that spends much, if any time on the subject.

As far as a coach asking about his player getting fouled. If I am watching the play, then he will get an answer as to what I saw or didn't see. If I moved to another matchup because the ball moved to a partner's area, then I will tell the coach I was watching a matchup off ball, and if he wants a better explanation he can ask the official covering the play the next time that official is in front of him. I will never use the words that it was somebody else's call, but I have no problem telling him what I was doing and who was officiating the play. If it is a play I should have had, and missed, I wont hesitate to tell him that either. Regardless, he will accept my explanation, even if he doesn't like it and move on. If he doesn't, the rules give me plenty of tools to compel him to do so.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

2-3 veteran refs should already know the "new stuff" by the time the season starts.

I'd rather talk about floor mechanics and coverage areas, especially as they relate to plays that I or my partners have seen missed in our games and other people's games.

The point is that if I talked about everything where someone said "gotta pre-game that", we'd still be having the pre-game a hour after the game ended.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

The point is that if I talked about everything where someone said "gotta pre-game that", we'd still be having the pre-game a hour after the game ended.

In my opinion, you should talk about something. That does not mean you have to talk about the same things every single time. If I have worked with the guys a few times, we might talk more about the teams and the tendencies than anything. If I have never worked with someone, I want to talk about certain things so I know what those guys are thinking or philosophies are or what they prefer to do. I do not want the court to be the first time I know a partner has a specific tendency or philosophy.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

In my opinion, you should talk about something. That does not mean you have to talk about the same things every single time. If I have worked with the guys a few times, we might talk more about the teams and the tendencies than anything. If I have never worked with someone, I want to talk about certain things so I know what those guys are thinking or philosophies are or what they prefer to do. I do not want the court to be the first time I know a partner has a specific tendency or philosophy.

Peace

Agree.

We should pre-game what we're going to pre-game too!