5 seconds in the post

[Amesman]

Disagreement at recent clinic: Who monitors -- and how -- post player NOT in the paint holding the ball, with regard to 5 seconds. Some shrugged and said "never seen it" (me either) but what happens when huge, young Shaqlette decides to hold ball in one hand and wave it around for about 7 seconds while either toying with an opponent or just figuring out who to pass to?

Common lines: "Lead never has a visible count," "Trail has to look in and help," "Can't call 5 seconds without a demonstrated count"

Resulted in a whole lot of bupkus and no definitive answer about who calls it and how it's counted out.

[Rich]

Lead counts if in his primary.

[Amesman]

Full arm swing, or free-throw fingers down at side only?

[Rich]

A normal count.

[deecee]

A 5 second count is a 5 second count. The arm swing is irrelevant. Why would the lead not have this count? Does the closely guarded rule not apply to post play?

[Nevadaref]

Two or three official mechanics?

[Amesman]

Clinician was emphasizing there's no visible count for 3 seconds so was asked about a possible 5-second count by the lead and seemed to get flustered, saying he'd never seen it. We were talking 3-person at the time.

[JRutledge]

If it is 3 person and the mechanics I am aware of, the lead does not give a closely guarded count. Two person, the lead has a count and you also have one less official.

Peace

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If it is 3 person and the mechanics I am aware of, the lead does not give a closely guarded count. Two person, the lead has a count and you also have one less official.

That's what I've been taught:
3-person = Trail takes any 5-second count on the strong side.
2-person = each official has responsibility for 5-second counts starting in his PCA.

NFHS manual for HS says...
Someone can probably consult the CCA manual and post the relevant passage.