Bulls/Cavs Last Second No Call (Video 2/2)

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do not think Noah was in a legal position.

Peace

That doesn't really answer the question....Why was't he in legal position?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

That doesn't really answer the question....Why was't he in legal position?

He was not vertical IMO. He jumped forward towards an airborne shooter IMO. So all the contact he had with LBJ was not legal. Again, my opinion, but it was also close and LBJ did not help himself by going so far under the basket which I think the official probably thought about in order to not actually call the foul. He was giving the ball back to the Cavs anyway and probably did not see the contact as obvious. And LBJ took on about 3 guys too which also would make me pause on a close contact play like this.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

He was not vertical IMO. He jumped forward towards an airborne shooter IMO. So all the contact he had with LBJ was not legal. Again, my opinion, but it was also close and LBJ did not help himself by going so far under the basket which I think the official probably thought about in order to not actually call the foul. He was giving the ball back to the Cavs anyway and probably did not see the contact as obvious. And LBJ took on about 3 guys too which also would make me pause on a close contact play like this.

Peace

Thank you. That is an answer.

I can't see that in the video but I also can't see that he was straight up. I can't argue that a foul is correct or not here.

The supplemental factors that you mention, however, are indeed real in determining if an advantage really did occur even if the contact was no in the defenders vertical plane. Given that LBJ had no where to go whether Noah was legal or not could easily make a foul a non-foul.

[JRutledge]

I am pretty sure I said the same thing earlier. But either way a foul gets called there we are not talking about free timeouts and what players are going to do during a review.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

... and what players are going to do during a review.

Peace

Yeah, that sends Van Gundy into all-out rant mode.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Yeah, that sends Van Gundy into all-out rant mode.

His rant did so much damage to common sense too. I have heard nothing about this as if the refs are at fault that the rules are what they are, all because that fool talked about something that was not illegal or unethical.

Peace

[deecee]

Jeff VanGundy is, plain and simply, a moron. He was an average coach, and is an awful color commentator at best. He offers knee jerk reactions and has never articulated anything that would give the impression that he put some thought into what he was saying.

I used to think Bill Walton was the worst. But he's Ahmad Rashad compared to JVG.