Game Scenario for Discussion

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I'd disagree here, when I am assigned U2 I need to make sure my R knows what is going on and in some cases check with him before I interact with the table.

I had situation this season with a last second shot and timeout by the other team immediately after. I looked at the clock after the shot went in and it said something like 1.8 seconds when I granted the timeout. By the time the clock operator stopped the clock it was .5. I knew what it was, but should have met with my partners first before going to the table to fix the clock. Two reasons for doing this: it shows everyone the crew getting together to get it right, and shows respect to my partners by checking with them.

Or...it shows that you weren't sure and had to find out from your partners before fixing the clock.

How about you just blow the whistle for the timeout and loudly call out to partners "Clock needs to be at 1.8. I'll take care of it." Then go report timeout and fix the clock. You don't need permission to fix things or have an interaction with the table. Frankly, if you came to me for "permission" to handle something at the table, I would look at you like you had grown a third eye on your forehead. Go take care of it...if I can't figure out what is going on, shame on me.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Or...it shows that you weren't sure and had to find out from your partners before fixing the clock.

How about you just blow the whistle for the timeout and loudly call out to partners "Clock needs to be at 1.8. I'll take care of it." Then go report timeout and fix the clock. You don't need permission to fix things or have an interaction with the table. Frankly, if you came to me for "permission" to handle something at the table, I would look at you like you had grown a third eye on your forehead. Go take care of it...if I can't figure out what is going on, shame on me.

My thoughts exactly. Any "R" or other crew member that feels disrespected over that has some problems.

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Or...it shows that you weren't sure and had to find out from your partners before fixing the clock.

I'm not sure how it would show that I don't know....I doubt many fans are thinking "oh those refs are huddling together, that means they don't know what they are doing".

Originally Posted by rockyroad

How about you just blow the whistle for the timeout and loudly call out to partners "Clock needs to be at 1.8. I'll take care of it." Then go report timeout and fix the clock. You don't need permission to fix things or have an interaction with the table. Frankly, if you came to me for "permission" to handle something at the table, I would look at you like you had grown a third eye on your forehead. Go take care of it...if I can't figure out what is going on, shame on me.

Probably because the building was so loud I couldn't yell at my partners. And I didn't say I had to ask for strict permission, just check with them to see if they had the same thing and were ok with what I thought the change should be.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

My thoughts exactly. Any "R" or other crew member that feels disrespected over that has some problems.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Be an R even if you're not the R.

Certainly, but it doesn't take much effort to go the extra mile and check with your partners before you change the clock. Once you change the clock once it is hard to change it again so why not huddle with your partners and come out with one final correction? As it was the U1 on the game (I was U2) was pissed that he didn't know what was going on when I was running around taking care of things. Like it or not I'd like to keep working with the guys in my area so I'm not gonna tell him to deal with it, no matter how irrational his "feelings" are.

[BillyMac]

Anytime the clock needs to be changed, I'm talking to my partner first, to make sure that we're both on the same page; then both coaches, they deserve an explanation; and then the table crew, who will adjust the clock.

And, it's not to keep from hurting anybody's feelings, or from stepping on anybody's toes, it's because it's the right way to do it.

From my pregame: "If anything weird happens, let's get together, and talk about it".