Act of Shooting

[Valley Man]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

You are like my ex-wife, lazily leaving out pertinent information...LOL

Too funny … although was it really pertinent? The official gave the T immediately on B while A was in the shooting motion.

As I said .. I know you would like to be able to wait til the hoop is scored. I guess it is now for me "wait until the shooting act has started"

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Valley Man

Too funny … although was it really pertinent? The official gave the T immediately on B while A was in the shooting motion.

As I said .. I know you would like to be able to wait til the hoop is scored. I guess it is now for me "wait until the shooting act has started"

Once A1 has started his shooting motion, nothing that is called against the defense can negate the made basket. So there is really no harm in whistling the T immediately.

What you are thinking about is a situation where Team A is still dribbling or passing during an uncontested fast break, and anyone on Team B does something to earn a Technical foul. In that case, you would let the play finish, then assess the T.

[Valley Man]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Once A1 has started his shooting motion, nothing that is called against the defense can negate the made basket. So there is really no harm in whistling the T immediately.

What you are thinking about is a situation where Team A is still dribbling or passing during an uncontested fast break, and anyone on Team B does something to earn a Technical foul. In that case, you would let the play finish, then assess the T.

Awesome .. thanks

[Rob1968]

2013-14 NFHS Case Book

10.4.1 SITUATION F: A1 is driving toward the basket for an apparent goal when the official, while trailing the play advancing in the direction in which the ball is being advanced, is cursed by the head coach or bench personnel of Team B. How should the official handle this situation?

RULING: The official shall withhold blowing the whistle until A1 has either made or missed the shot. The official shall then sound the whistle and assess the Team B coach or bench personnel with a technical foul.

[wyo96]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

2013-14 NFHS Case Book



RULING: The official shall withhold blowing the whistle until A1 has either made or missed the shot. The official shall then sound the whistle and assess the Team B coach or bench personnel with a technical foul.

Is it fair to assume you would not allow the quick put back by A2 to score since the Ruling says "A1"? Or would you make some allowance for a quick rebound??

[Adam]

Originally Posted by wyo96

Is it fair to assume you would not allow the quick put back by A2 to score since the Ruling says "A1"? Or would you make some allowance for a quick rebound??

If there are no B players in the vicinity, I might allow the put back, but it could be persuasively argued that one free shot is enough in this case. If B misses the gimme, that's on them.

If there are any defenders in the area, I'm not allowing a rebound and I'm going to hit the whistle once the shot is in the air.

[Valley Man]

Originally Posted by Adam

If there are any defenders in the area, I'm not allowing a rebound and I'm going to hit the whistle once the shot is in the air.

I agree with this from the get go. I notice the "once the shot is in the air". I can see where my "confusion" set in now. I have never heard .. "I am going to wait until the act of shooting has begun to whistle the T"

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by wyo96

Is it fair to assume you would not allow the quick put back by A2 to score since the Ruling says "A1"? Or would you make some allowance for a quick rebound??

The intent of the Case Book RULING is to allow the immediate play to be completed. With that in mind, once the initial shot is "either made or missed" the whistle is to be sounded, and the T assessed. A successful shot, or a rebound secured by any player marks the end of that immediate play.
If the Team A player is unable to make the shot, oh well, we gave him/her the opportunity to complete the play . . .

The RULING is similar to a play in which a player from B steps OOB, when A1 is about to attempt an uncontested shot, as noted in CASE Book 9.3.3 Situation D, in hopes that the official will whistle the play dead, before the shot is taken.