Act of Shooting

[Valley Man]

A1 is driving for a breakaway layup and is in the act of shooting. Official gives a T to B1. Do you count the basket?

I know we should wait til the bucket is good when giving a T to opposing coach if possible.

[ballgame99]

Why would you give a T during a live ball? It would need to be intentional or intentional flagrant would it not?

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

Why would you give a T during a live ball? It would need to be intentional or intentional flagrant would it not?

Why couldn't you? You could have a variety of T's live ball (Coach, player taunt, etc.)

[Valley Man]

Geez .. you are like my wife .. answer a question with a question. B1 cursed at official loud enough half the gym heard it. My question comes with the ball still being in A1's hands.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Valley Man

Geez .. you are like my wife .. answer a question with a question. B1 cursed at official loud enough half the gym heard it. My question comes with the ball still being in A1's hands.

The act of shooting started prior to the foul, count the basket.

[JRutledge]

Wait until the basket is made and then call the T, unless the T is on the team with the ball. Problem solved.

There is interpretations precedent for doing just what I suggested.

Peace

[PG_Ref]

Originally Posted by Valley Man

Geez .. you are like my wife .. answer a question with a question. B1 cursed at official loud enough half the gym heard it. My question comes with the ball still being in A1's hands.

Sometimes, getting the correct answer requires more information. That was more than likely why the poster asked more questions.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Wait until the basket is made and then call the T, unless the T is on the team with the ball. Problem solved.

There is interpretations precedent for doing just what I suggested.

Peace

There's no problem to solve. Once the shooting motion has begun, the basket counts anyway.

I might wait until the shot is in the air, though.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by PG_Ref

Sometimes, getting the correct answer requires more information. That was more than likely why the poster asked more questions.

Maybe, but the OP didn't require any more information, and that follow up question was wrong.

[PG_Ref]

Originally Posted by Adam

Maybe, but the OP didn't require any more information, and that follow up question was wrong.

True ...but I'm guessing that's probably why the follow up. Correct, once the act of shooting begins, A1 is allowed to continue. It's just that I've seen where newer officials get confused, for some reason, and kick it.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

Why would you give a T during a live ball? It would need to be intentional or intentional flagrant would it not?

I can guarantee that it could NOT be "intentional flagrant."

[Raymond]

You are like my ex-wife, lazily leaving out pertinent information...LOL

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

You are like my ex-wife, lazily leaving out pertinent information...LOL

What did he leave out that was relevant?

[Valley Man]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

You are like my ex-wife, lazily leaving out pertinent information...LOL

Too funny … although was it really pertinent? The official gave the T immediately on B while A was in the shooting motion.

As I said .. I know you would like to be able to wait til the hoop is scored. I guess it is now for me "wait until the shooting act has started"

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Adam

What did he leave out that was relevant?

B1 implies the primary defender, so it is not a stretch to ask the question ballgame did (even if he screwed up the terminology). If an official does not know that a basket is good in this situation, then it is not implausible that the official doesn't know the difference between a flagrant foul and a technical foul. Once A1 is in his shooting motion, why would ANY foul by the defense negate the basket?