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Gmoore · #1 (**permalink**) Thu Dec 11, 2003, 10:53pm

what would would be the proper way to handle this

Horn blows at halftime no time on clock you or your partner give a coach a "T" when do you shoot the free-throws and what happens to the alternating arrow?

what would happen if it was at end 4th Qtr. team B ahead by one horn sounded no time on clock but on your way to scorer table coach of B gets a T

Mark Padgett · #2 (**permalink**) Thu Dec 11, 2003, 11:17pm

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Originally posted by Gmoore
what would would be the proper way to handle this

Horn blows at halftime no time on clock you or your partner give a coach a "T" when do you shoot the free-throws and what happens to the alternating arrow?

NF rules: change the arrow because it's halftime. Start the 3rd quarter with the two shots and the ball for the technical. Do not change the arrow after the technical.

what would happen if it was at end 4th Qtr. team B ahead by one horn sounded no time on clock but on your way to scorer table coach of B gets a T

Team A shoots two free throws. If none are made, B wins. If one is made, overtime. If both are made, A wins. The jurisdiction of the offials is not over at the time the T is called. It counts.

zebracz · #3 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 12, 2003, 03:29am

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mark Padgett

Horn blows at halftime no time on clock you or your partner give a coach a "T" when do you shoot the free-throws and what happens to the alternating arrow?[/b]

NF rules: change the arrow because it's halftime. Start the 3rd quarter with the two shots and the ball for the technical. Do not change the arrow after the technical.

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Is this correct? I thought, you'd shoot the T freethrows before you go into the half??

Jurassic Referee · #4 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 12, 2003, 03:44am

[QUOTE]Originally posted by zebracz

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett

Horn blows at halftime no time on clock you or your partner give a coach a "T" when do you shoot the free-throws and what happens to the alternating arrow?

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NF rules: change the arrow because it's halftime. Start the 3rd quarter with the two shots and the ball for the technical. Do not change the arrow after the technical.

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Is this correct? I thought, you'd shoot the T freethrows before you go into the half?? [/B]

Mark's got it nailed. See NFHS rule 5-6-4.

bob jenkins · #5 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 12, 2003, 08:30am

[QUOTE]Originally posted by zebracz

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett

Horn blows at halftime no time on clock you or your partner give a coach a "T" when do you shoot the free-throws and what happens to the alternating arrow?

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NF rules: change the arrow because it's halftime. Start the 3rd quarter with the two shots and the ball for the technical. Do not change the arrow after the technical.

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Is this correct? I thought, you'd shoot the T freethrows before you go into the half?? [/B]

IF the quarter was over ("Horn blows" is not enough information to determine whether the quarter has ended), start the next quarter with the T.

IF the quarter wasn't over, then the T is part of the second quarter. You'll shoot the throws, but won't have a throw-in as part of the T.

SteveF · #6 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 12, 2003, 08:49am

Bob what do you mean about the quarter being over? If the horn blew and no time was on the clock wouldn't that constitute the quarter being over? Or do you mean that act of the coach getting the technical was taking place at that time and was called simultaneously as the quarter ended?

ChuckElias · #7 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 12, 2003, 09:04am

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Originally posted by SteveF
Bob what do you mean about the quarter being over? If the horn blew and no time was on the clock wouldn't that constitute the quarter being over?

He means that there might have been a foul on the shooter with no time left on the clock. So the quarter wouldn't be over until all the FTs for any fouls were shot. If the coach received his/her T before the completion of those FTs, then the T is considered part of the same quarter. If all the action is over, and then the coach gets the T, the quarter is considered to be over and you would start the next quarter with the FTs for the T.

SteveF · #8 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 12, 2003, 09:19am

Chuck thanks for the clerification. Have not had enough coffee yet this morning to get my brain to thinking too hard.

zebracz · #9 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 12, 2003, 09:51am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
[If all the action is over, and then the coach gets the T, the quarter is considered to be over and you would start the next quarter with the FTs for the T.

Chuck & Bob, cuz you eluded to this:

...if the Q is over,it's halftime, then, would you go to the possesion arrow as regularly to start the 3rd Q?

or is it T admin'd to start the 3rd...

...and, what if the T was given before completion of free throws, w/ time expired, but still 2nd Q (as you had mentioned), would you admin the start of the 3rd any differently? Ball goes to nonaffending team, and don't switch the arrow, right? know what I mean?

Gmoore · #10 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 12, 2003, 09:53am

Thaks for the answers.. one more

What would happen if team B is ahead by one Point 4Qtr
no time on clock and the horn had sounded but coach of team B decides to make a comment before you leave the floor and gets a "T"
If its not part of that QTR do we go to overtime? Probllay would never happen as most would just leave the floor and move on but "What If"

ChuckElias · #11 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 12, 2003, 09:58am

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Originally posted by zebracz
Chuck & Bob, cuz you eluded to this:

Yeah, and I was lucky to get away, too. Whew!!

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...if the Q is over,it's halftime, then, would you go to the possesion arrow as regularly to start the 3rd Q?

or is it T admin'd to start the 3rd...

If the T is assessed before all the action of the 2nd quarter has concluded then the T is part of the 2nd quarter. In that case, you shoot the 2 FTs and, assuming no other T's are assessed, the half is over. The 3rd quarter begins just as it normally would, by using the AP arrow.

If the T is assessed after after all the action of the 2nd quarter has concluded, then the T is administered to start the 3rd quarter. Shoot 2 FTs and award the ball to the offended team. Do not use the AP arrow.

zebracz · #12 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 12, 2003, 10:01am

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Originally posted by Gmoore
Thaks for the answers.. one more

What would happen if team B is ahead by one Point 4Qtr
no time on clock and the horn had sounded but coach of team B decides to make a comment before you leave the floor and gets a "T"
If its not part of that QTR do we go to overtime? Probllay would never happen as most would just leave the floor and move on but "What If"

My man, that is actually a Case Book and Test Question situation here! They are fun; you wouldn't force OT, though, cuz the score would be team B winning by one point, if ya'll considering it nothing and leave the floor..but if you do T him and Team B is up w/ no time left, Team A would have two freethrows (nfhs) and could either win or force OT. thereya go..

ChuckElias · #13 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 12, 2003, 10:02am

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Originally posted by Gmoore
Thaks for the answers.. one more

What would happen if team B is ahead by one Point 4Qtr
no time on clock and the horn had sounded but coach of team B decides to make a comment before you leave the floor and gets a "T"
If its not part of that QTR do we go to overtime?

I think somebody just asked this yesterday over on McGriff's. Team A is awarded 2 FTs. If they make both, Team A wins. If they miss both, Team B wins. If they make one, we go to OT.

If the score were tied at the end of the 4th quarter, I believe that you start the OT with the FTs.

zebracz · #14 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 12, 2003, 10:04am

Thanks, Chuck

Gmoore · #15 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 12, 2003, 10:46am

Whats the addy To MCgriffs ?