The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Wed Apr 01, 2015, 12:44pm
Courageous When Prudent
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 14,956
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich View Post
You're kidding, right? There are stories all the times of leagues and tournaments who get rid of officials or simply stop using them because the officials TCB and don't bend over backwards to please the "customer." I posted one above. That's not the only time that's happened to me in 28 years, either.

Difference between me and other officials is that I don't really care -- I don't really need to work stuff like this and do it mainly to tune up for camps or for some pocket money to take on vacations. I'll TCB. Those that use this money to pay the bills quickly learn to get walked on so they keep getting the work.
Guess it is not an issue around these parts because I've never once considered something like that happening. There a lot of parents who sit in silence but I very happy their jack-wagon coach gets tossed from a game.

What I do know is that I've read quite a few stories of officials getting assaulted in Florida. Maybe this isn't the proper execution to address the lack of civility in sports leagues in that state, but apparently it is bad enough to catch the attention of some people of power.
__________________
A-hole formerly known as BNR
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Wed Apr 01, 2015, 01:23pm
certified Hot Mom tester
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: only in my own mind, such as it is
Posts: 12,918
In all the years I was associated with our local kids rec league, our policy was that if a coach was ejected, he or she had to appear before the executive committee of the Board of Directors before he or she could continue to coach. If they did not agree to appear, they were done coaching (either head or assistant) "forever", even if they had a younger kid who was coming up in the ranks. If they appeared, there was still the possibility they would be barred, but that was rare. Sometimes the Board committee would suspend them for a game or two but they usually straightened themselves out pretty quick. We had to keep in mind that all our coaches were volunteers and we really didn't want to lose them.

There was one coach who slapped a player (5th grade boy) during a timeout for "not paying attention". He thought it was OK to slap him because the kid was his son. We kicked this jerk out for life.
__________________
Yom HaShoah
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Wed Apr 01, 2015, 01:45pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 177
Seems like the wrong fix to me. Who is acceptable as a coach in the league should be league business.

My comment about assault on officials in FL. In NC, it is a felony to assault a game official. Why add a civil penalty (cant coach anymore) when assault is a violent crime and should be treated as such. If the offender is convicted of a felony, then with recreation leagues around here, they are not eligible to coach.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Wed Apr 01, 2015, 01:51pm
Courageous When Prudent
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 14,956
Quote:
Originally Posted by john5396 View Post
Seems like the wrong fix to me. Who is acceptable as a coach in the league should be league business.
...
Well, in Florida, a couple of the assaults that have occurred have been by convicted felons who have been allowed to be assistant coaches in youth leagues. Apparently those businesses are not being run in the best interests of the participants and officials.
__________________
A-hole formerly known as BNR

Last edited by Raymond; Wed Apr 01, 2015 at 02:12pm.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Wed Apr 01, 2015, 04:00pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: SE Ohio
Posts: 1,283
Quote:
Originally Posted by BadNewsRef View Post
Well, in Florida, a couple of the assaults that have occurred have been by convicted felons who have been allowed to be assistant coaches in youth leagues. Apparently those businesses are not being run in the best interests of the participants and officials.

That's a reason why a lot of areas are going to background checks for almost any adult, coach,umpire, score keeper, to be able to do games.

Many areas, like mine, can't afford to have umpires blackballed lest they have to start having lotteries before gamed to see who gets pulled out of the stands to do games...that's almost how I got started doing basketball games.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Wed Apr 01, 2015, 07:18pm
Administrator
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Toledo, Ohio, U.S.A.
Posts: 8,144
I am interested in how the AAU (and Disney) are going to respond to this legislation considering the number of AAU Nationals that are held at Disney. Also YBOA basketball and USSSA nationals.

MTD, Sr.
__________________
Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Trumbull Co. (Warren, Ohio) Bkb. Off. Assn.
Wood Co. (Bowling Green, Ohio) Bkb. Off. Assn.
Ohio Assn. of Basketball Officials
International Assn. of Approved Bkb. Officials
Ohio High School Athletic Association
Toledo, Ohio
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Wed Apr 01, 2015, 03:19pm
Official & Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,380
Quote:
Originally Posted by BadNewsRef View Post
What I do know is that I've read quite a few stories of officials getting assaulted in Florida. Maybe this isn't the proper execution to address the lack of civility in sports leagues in that state, but apparently it is bad enough to catch the attention of some people of power.
I swear the heat cooks people's brains down here. The assault cases I've heard of tend to occur in youth football and soccer. There's no shortage lunatic parents in AAU basketball but I've not heard of much in the way of physical confrontation...at least in my neck of the woods. It is a big state though.

The person who sponsored the bill witnessed the bad behavior at his daughter's softball game (he's a coach). He's a state senator from South FL. (Broward County). I applaud the effort...but this measure seems broad, non-specific and unenforceable.
__________________
Calling it both ways...since 1999

Last edited by Bad Zebra; Wed Apr 01, 2015 at 03:41pm.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
NCAA penalties extend to 10 Florida State University sports JugglingReferee General / Off-Topic 1 Sun Mar 08, 2009 04:42pm
Maybe the biggest a-hole in the history of youth sports... Raymond Basketball 14 Sun Dec 10, 2006 09:54pm
Letter to youth sports officials Jimgolf Basketball 27 Fri Sep 22, 2006 03:05pm
Adult fans turn youth sports violent SRW Softball 2 Mon Jan 23, 2006 05:33pm
Sniper Curtails Youth Sports Parents’ Bad Behavior IRISHMAFIA Softball 2 Mon Oct 21, 2002 06:08pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:18am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1