Should the travel rule be overhauled/rewritten?

[MechanicGuy]

Basically, do those in charge want to allow "two steps" on drives to the hoop?

Because if they don't, we as officials (at every level) need to reevaluate how we call the game. Spin moves on the gather, drives to the basket, "Euro-steps", etc....are travels almost every time, and they're called approximately never. And when they are called, even when accurate, are met with disdain from players, coaches, announcers, etc...because traveling is so rarely enforced as written.

I have no problem if the rule is changed to match the NBA wording, and including the phrase "two steps" on drives to the basket (or something of that nature), because it looks good/natural, doesn't effect play and is essentially being called this way anyway.

Are you guys OK with simply continuing to ignore the rule and just adapting how the game is called?

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by MechanicGuy

Basically, do those in charge want to allow "two steps" on drives to the hoop?

Because if they don't, we as officials (at every level) need to reevaluate how we call the game. Spin moves on the gather, drives to the basket, "Euro-steps", etc....are travels almost every time, and they're called approximately never. And when they are called, even when accurate, are met with disdain from players, coaches, announcers, etc...because traveling is so rarely enforced as written.

I have no problem if the rule is changed to match the NBA wording, and including the phrase "two steps" on drives to the basket (or something of that nature), because it looks good, doesn't effect play and is essentially being called this way anyway.

Are you guys OK with simply continuing to ignore the rule and just adapting how the game is called?

As someone who isn't a basketball official, I think the way officials are instructed to call it should be reflected in the rule itself.

[Rich]

I'm OK with it the way things are. They don't nitpick it. Nobody involved IN the game seems to expect otherwise.

I was at the B1G tourney and it was funny watching entire fanbases given traveling signals from the crowd...while coaches didn't say anything.


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[Mark Padgett]

Years ago, I was working a kids rec tourney and one of the players was the son of NBA player Kenny Carr. Kenny was in the bleachers watching the game. When the point guard from the other team would bring up the ball, Kenny would chant "TRAVEL, TRAVEL" over and over. After this happened a few times, I went over to him and said, "Kenny - you play in the NBA. How would you know what a travel is?" He laughed and didn't bring it up again.

[constable]

Originally Posted by MechanicGuy

Basically, do those in charge want to allow "two steps" on drives to the hoop?

Because if they don't, we as officials (at every level) need to reevaluate how we call the game. Spin moves on the gather, drives to the basket, "Euro-steps", etc....are travels almost every time, and they're called approximately never. And when they are called, even when accurate, are met with disdain from players, coaches, announcers, etc...because traveling is so rarely enforced as written.

I have no problem if the rule is changed to match the NBA wording, and including the phrase "two steps" on drives to the basket (or something of that nature), because it looks good/natural, doesn't effect play and is essentially being called this way anyway.

Are you guys OK with simply continuing to ignore the rule and just adapting how the game is called?

The euro-step is not a travel if done properly.

[SC Official]

I don't want the rule to change simply because I don't want to have to acknowledge that fans are correct when they yell "HE GETS TWO STEPS!"

[Adam]

Originally Posted by constable

The euro-step is not a travel if done properly.

Yep, and it's done correctly far more often than the spin move is.

[MechanicGuy]

Originally Posted by constable

The euro-step is not a travel if done properly.

I'm aware. And it's harder to see the difference than it is on spin moves, which is a travel more than 90% off the time imo.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by MechanicGuy

I'm aware. And it's harder to see the difference than it is on spin moves, which is a travel more than 90% off the time imo.

I think that number is exaggerated a bit.

I also see officials see a spin move and just call it a travel, which is worse than letting a few go that actually are, but hard to see. If you don't pick up the pivot foot, you can't call a travel.

[MechanicGuy]

Originally Posted by Rich

I think that number is exaggerated a bit.

I also see officials see a spin move and just call it a travel, which is worse than letting a few go that actually are, but hard to see. If you don't pick up the pivot foot, you can't call a travel.

Ehhhh, I think it's pretty accurate. It's rare that I see a player wait until they have their "in motion" foot on the ground before gathering the ball.

I've been testing myself over the past several months, but calling them live and then rewinding the DVR to get a second look, and 9/10 I'm calling them accurately.

It's fairly unique, even unnatural, NOT to gather too early on a spin move.

That said, many are close enough that I'd pass in a game. But those that aren't close are still almost never called.

[Mark Padgett]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSZGCfKvlTI

[constable]

Our supervisors around here tell us that if we need to watch them in slow motion several times over then don't call it. We aren't in the business of splitting hairs

[Adam]

Originally Posted by constable

Our supervisors around here tell us that if we need to watch them in slow motion several times over then don't call it. We aren't in the business of splitting hairs

If I need to watch it in frame-by-frame to see it, I agree. If I can see it live and confirm it with slow motion, that's different.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Adam

If I need to watch it in frame-by-frame to see it, I agree. If I can see it live and confirm it with slow motion, that's different.

I hate when an official cas the travel and people on here say I can only see it in slow motion so it wasn't a good call.

[JRutledge]

We need to stop this "ignoring the rule" narrative. Travels are hard to get based on all levels. I see all level of officials miss travels. And when I called a couple in the State Finals, people complained as if they were missed, but the video backed me up. And most of all who cares what fans think. Anything funny to them is a travel even when it is not rules based. Why are we concerned with what fans think about any rule that they do not have to administer?

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