CA Open Championship (Boys)

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

You know, there was this college game a few years back where this guy named Chris Weber was playing with these other 4 really good players from Michigan, and wouldn't you know it, he tried to call a timeout thingy when they didn't have any timeout thingys left.

Good thing for him the refs just chose to ignore his request, cause it was just too good of a game to end with...wait. What? The refs did give him the timeout? And called a T??????

Why those dirty basturds. I bet they got run out of town and never worked another big college game in their...what??? They did???

Never mind.

Hey. That's my schtick.

Note: Well done rockyroad.

[referee99]

[MechanicGuy]

Originally Posted by referee99

White's bench sure thought they granted the time-out request lol

That said, there sounded like several whistles going off in the final second or two...maybe they were unsure if there was time on the clock when they granted the TO?

Guess only a handful of people really know the answers.


As an aside, lets say this "ignored" TO request happens with 7 seconds left instead of 1. And lets say that the defense sees the request and rightfully stops playing defense, because the other team is clearly calling time out. But, the officials choose to ignore the rule and the offensive team goes the length of the court to win.....is that a better result?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by MechanicGuy

And lets say that the defense sees the request and rightfully stops playing defense, because the other team is clearly calling time out. But, the officials choose to ignore the rule and the offensive team goes the length of the court to win.....is that a better result?

If the defense stops as soon as they think they hear a request, they deserve whatever happens to them.

[mutantducky]

there clearly is a whistle or two. When I saw it live, I thought a TO had been granted. I thought the refs were discussing whether or not to put time back on the clock to give O'Dowd the ball. I didn't know there weren't any timeouts left and The tv people didn't know and they talked about that after. Listen I know about ignoring the tech and the issues that could arise but trust me if you watched the game you did not want to see end that way. But yes clearly there could have been an issue had there been another second or two on the clock. It appears to me one of the refs see the TO request and blows the whistle but time has run out, or they just let the clock run. It seemed to have stopped at .8. I don't know. I'm just glad I saw a quality game between two very good teams.

you see how the clock is stopped at .8? I think that was the clock operator, then it restarts. ha, what a mess that would have been if that last heave had gone in.

[JRutledge]

Well in our playoffs at the Super-Sectional Level a coach requested a timeout without one and the crew granted it. The only mistake the crew made was to not give the timeout. Otherwise the crew knew the coach/team was out and granted it anyway with less than a minute. What was funny the team that asked for a timeout that they did not have, hit a buzzer beater to send the game into overtime. The team eventually lost in overtime, but I think we cannot just ignore these request just because. You never know what the result might be.

Peace

[APG]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

Listen I know about ignoring the tech and the issues that could arise but trust me if you watched the game you did not want to see end that way.

This statement reads as one coming more from a fan rather than official.

Pray tell...how would an assignor defend you if a coach were to send tape in asking why the officials didn't grant the timeout? There's nothing ambiguous about the request...the player is signaling for a timeout for 2 seconds...right in front of the new lead.

Also, what is your cut off for how much time must be on the clock before you'd grant a timeout? Four seconds? Why that? Why would you be able to see a game "end that way" with a request at four seconds rather than two? Hell, why not just ignore all requests in a tied game in the closing 30 seconds? What if it's a bad game but tied? How do you determine what's a good game and thus not worthy of being "ended that way?"

Part of this gig is being able to make calls of consequence....in end of game situations...that will adversely affect a team. It's not really in the job description to stop players/coaches from making stupid mistakes.

*I say this all with the caveat that some assignors would probably want you to ignore this...therefore listen to your boss.

[Rich]

There's a number of officials on the FB Referees page that agree with Ducky. Really makes me sad.