Gonzaga vs Duke Push with ball (Video)

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I haven't made the leap yet. I'm asking questions, and giving some possible answers.

I cannot make that leap at all based on an internet discussion board conversation. I need some support on this one. And since there is no rules saying you are right, I have to do nothing in a situation I have never seen personally.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

... no rules saying you are right ...

Right? I've been hedging on this throughout the entire thread.

One thing that you are 100% right about JRutledge: I too would love to get a NFHS interpretation on this situation.

Note: Right now I'm leaning toward unsporting technical foul, but I may change my mind again after I sleep on it.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Right? I've been hedging on this throughout the entire thread.

One thing that you are 100% right about JRutledge: I too would love to get a NFHS interpretation on this situation.

Note: Right now I'm leaning toward unsporting technical foul, but I may change my mind again after I sleep on it.

I would not call a T unless it was forceful contact. Just like I would not call a T just because a player throws the ball off another player to save the ball. That is basketball unless it is done purposely to hurt or harm. To me if you are pushed with the ball and cannot make a play on the ball, then so be it for you.

Peace

[just another ref]

10-6-1: A player shall not ....push........by extending arms......


The fact that this player is holding the basketball is not significant. It is a personal foul.

There is no comparison between the OP and a player deliberately throwing the ball at another player.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

10-6-1: A player shall not ....push........by extending arms......


The fact that this player is holding the basketball is not significant. It is a personal foul.

There is no comparison between the OP and a player deliberately throwing the ball at another player.

When you give us a Casebook Play, I might accept that. Otherwise you are using your standard, not the one everyone agrees with that interpretation.

Peace

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by just another ref

10-6-1: A player shall not ....push........by extending arms......


The fact that this player is holding the basketball is not significant. It is a personal foul.

There is no comparison between the OP and a player deliberately throwing the ball at another player.

It reads "by extending arms," not by extending the ball.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

It reads "by extending arms," not by extending the ball.

Can you extend the ball without using your arms?

[Raymond]

So I guess if a player grabs a rebound then taps the ball against the backboard we are going to call a T for smacking the backboard since the ball and the hand are the same thing?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Can you extend the ball without using your arms?

Nope, one must extend ARMS to push. That is exactly what 10-6-1 says. What if the player doesn't have the ball? Do you think that the rule doesn't apply to him? The rule is clearly written to cover action with the arms.